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#6826 Re: Introductions » tricks to find age using numbers » 2005-04-05 12:29:47

Like the card trick:

"Take a card, any card. Now show me the card ... It is the Queen of Spades!"

And the other variation (all great for parties):

"Take a card, any card, bu don't look at it. Now put it back. (Shuffle ... look ... ) it was the Ace of Clubs!"

#6827 Re: Introductions » tricks to find age using numbers » 2005-04-05 12:19:50

Or "take your age, add one, tell me the number, and I will guess your age" smile

OK, here's one:

Take your age, multiply by 3, add 15, divide by 3, add 91 and tell me the number.
I then subtract 100, and add 4.

Example: 14*3 = 42, +15=57, /3=19, +91=110. Your age is 110-100+4 = 14 !

#6828 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » Puzzles » 2005-04-05 12:09:35

Uh, oh, Zachs back!

And how are you my tunnel-running friend?

#6829 Re: Puzzles and Games » Code » 2005-04-05 09:39:49

A warm welcome to the forum, rbd.

This is a definite challenge! Let us work on it for a while.

#6830 Re: Help Me ! » need help!!! » 2005-04-05 09:20:19

Example: Square Root of 2 (but works generally)

Guess: 1.5

2/1.5 = 1.333
Average the guess and the answer: (1.5+1.333)/2 = 1.417

Again:
2/1.417 = 1.411
Average the guess and the answer: (1.417+1.411)/2 = 1.414    DONE!   

So, the more times you do this, the more accurate it becomes, but you can see that we have quickly arrived at three decimal places of accuracy. Stuff like this is called Successive Approximation.


Let's try another one. Square root of 10

Guess: 4
10/4=2.5
(4+2.5)/2 = 3.25
10/3.25=3.077
(3.25+3.077)/2 = 3.163
Test: 3.163*3.163 = 10.004 Amazing!

This can be useful if you are stuck without a calculator and need to find the diagonal of a square. I used it once for placing survey pegs in the ground when I was far from home.

#6832 Re: This is Cool » I disagree with » 2005-04-04 12:23:46

And that is a good point. I guess it depends on how you look at it.

Taking your argument, they will always be one decimal place out, but that difference is at infinity.

So the difference is "infinitesimal", which means infinitely small, or "approaching zero as a limit".

So, 0.999... = (1 - infinitesimal),  perhaps? Is that the same as saying 0.999... = 1   ?

#6833 Re: Help Me ! » yet another problem » 2005-04-04 09:50:39

These are nice problems ... hmm

I think this one can be solved by just working out the volumes. Figure the volume of the cylinder, then divide it by (0.5 x 11).

#6834 Re: Guestbook » How to learn Times Tabels » 2005-04-04 09:32:49

There is a Times Table Test which you can do online, and there are also Multiplication Worksheets which you can print out and practice on.

Print a few worksheets, and also print each one's answer sheet (put these aside to check your work later on), and then practice every day.

One thing to make it easier is to look at the Times Table Chart and find patterns: for example the last digit of the 5-times table always goes 5,0,5,0, and the last digit of 9-times goes 9,8,7,6, ... (AND if you add the digits of each 9-times, you get 9. What I mean is that 9x5=45 and 4+5=9, or 9x9=81 and 8+1=9. But what about 9x11=99?)

#6836 Re: Help Me ! » What's the length of the spike. Please I really need this help » 2005-04-03 22:38:18

Because the circle sits at eye-level, and also has the 40° line grazing its upper surface, then a line at 20° (half of 40°) would go thru the circles center.

This makes a triangle ABC with A being the eye, B being the base of the circle and C being the center of the circle. We know the circle has an angle at A of 20°, and line BC is 3m (half of the 6m diameter).

Solving this triangle: tan 20° = 3m / line length (AB), so AB = 3m / tan 20° = 8.24 m

The question asks "the distance  the boy is from the nearest point of the tower.", well we have just figured out that the boy is 8.24m from the centre line of the tower, the tower is 6m in diameter, so he is 8.24 - 3  = 5.24m away from the outer wall

Now all that is left is that spike !

#6837 Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » Upgraded the Worksheets » 2005-04-03 01:30:40

MathsIsFun
Replies: 75

Just spent the last week on the worksheets.

We now have Long Division, Long Multiplication, and Decimals Worksheets

Any feedback would be appreciated.

#6838 Re: Jokes » The Duck » 2005-04-02 10:06:26

Hahahaha. Smart duck roll

#6839 Re: Help Me ! » Venn Diagrams, this is very important to me » 2005-04-02 09:54:20

Looks nice on the wall.

Or, you could use it organize people or things based on four qualities. For example, your friends could be tall, or blond, or smart, or fat. Some could be tall AND blond, or tall AND smart, or all four, etc ...

As you can see, there are 4 ellipses that overlap each other. Each ellipse is a quality, for example "tall". The lower left ellipse could mean "tall", and the one above it could be "blond", and the two on the right could be "smart" and "fat".

Where the ellipses overlap is where you would place your friends with more than one quality, and in the middle (where they all overlap) is where you would put your friend(s) who have ALL those qualities.

Have a go, and see what all the possible combinations would be, and make sure that there is a place on the diagram for each of them.

#6840 Re: Help Me ! » need help!!! » 2005-04-01 23:10:26

Q2. A boy walks a certain distance at 9km/h. He finds that if he increases his speed by 1/3, he would have saved 4/3 hrs. Find the distance he walks.

I agree, it is hard to get your head around it.

Let's rephrase a little: 9km/h times (1+1/3) saves 4/3h, or an extra 3km/h saves 4/3h, so his time "t" is reduced.

OK, I think I can work this ... it has TWO things we don't know, time AND distance.

Let's call time "t" (in hours), and distance "x" (in km)

x = 9t (he went at 9km/h)
x = 9(1+1/3)(t-4/3) (increasing speed by 1/3 reduces time by 4/3)

Put the two together:

9t = 9(1+1/3)(t-4/3)
9t = 12(t-4/3)
9t = 12t-48/3
9t = 12t-16
-3t = -16
t = 16/3

Check this, too smile

#6841 Re: Help Me ! » need help!!! » 2005-04-01 22:48:52

Q1.

Full credit for having a go at it! You are using a good method, but I think the confusion is at the beginning. "Divide 64 into two parts" could mean "x times y equals 64" (as you thought of it), or "x plus y equals 64" (as in "let's divide this cake")

It works out neatly if you think of it as "x plus y equals 64"

So we can write it down as:

x+y=64
and
(2/3)x - (1/4)y = 28 (like you had it)

Let's solve:
x+y=64
y = 64-x
So: (2/3)x - (1/4)(64-x) = 28
then: (2/3+1/4)x - (1/4)64 = 28
(8/12+3/12)x - 16 = 28
(11/12)x=44
x= 44*12/11 = 4*12 = 48

Check it for me smile

#6842 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » Puzzles » 2005-04-01 11:40:06

Oh, cool. London. Do anything interesting?

#6843 Re: Jokes » Lone Ranger + Tonto » 2005-04-01 11:35:35

... suddenly over the hill comes 3,000 screaming indians. They circle around and around the Lone Ranger and Tonto, notching their arrows ready to fire.

The Lone Ranger says "What do we do now, Tonto?"

Tonto says "what do you mean 'we', PaleFace ...?"

#6845 Re: Help Me ! » Venn Diagrams, this is very important to me » 2005-04-01 10:03:07

Draw it here? With my keyboard?

YES it can be done. Venn himself managed it using ellipses. I have re-created it here:

venn-4.gif

I count 16 regions including the "outside" region.

#6846 Re: Help Me ! » What's the length of the spike. Please I really need this help » 2005-04-01 09:41:00

Egads and Gazooks!  Give me a coupla days!

This is how I would start:

Forget all the 3 dimensional stuff, it is really a 2d puzzle, so just write it down on a sheet of paper:


                               | (spike)
        .-'             (circle 6m diameter)
     .-'                      ^         
eye------------        7.5m                 
   1.5m               
---+-----------------------------------


Draw a circle 6m in diameter with its centre 7.5m up. Draw a line (eye height) 1.5m up. Now draw a line at 40° that just grazes the circle.

You could now measure off the paper how far away the boy is standing (by where the 40° and the "eye-line" intersect), and the length of the spike (the distance from the top of the circle upwards to the 40° line), but we should really do all the math!

The puzzler has made it easy for us, I think, by having the circle's diameter 6m, which is exactly the same as the difference in heights (7.5m-1.5m=6m), or else it is just coincidence

#6847 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » A suggestion for this Forum. » 2005-04-01 09:26:27

Yes! Well, I didn't change to phpBB, I kept it with punBB. When I checked it all out, I found that people were moving TO punBB.

So I did some some upgrading of the existing board over Easter. Do you like it?

#6850 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » Our New Forum » 2005-03-30 09:21:47

We have some pages on this: Regular 2-D Shapes , and Quadrilaterals

What kind of help would you like?

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