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#6551 Re: Help Me ! » A difficult one I think =0/ » 2005-05-13 10:18:18

Oh, darn, you solved it yourself ... not fair.


BTW if you have any maths-related flash or director you think could help the visitors, let me know.

#6553 Re: Puzzles and Games » Easy one » 2005-05-13 10:07:20

Hmmm, I don't know the answer, but that looks too high.

#6554 Re: Puzzles and Games » Easy one » 2005-05-13 10:01:06

Darn, he's RIGHT!

OK, try this:

In the library there is an "encyclopedia of worms". It is three volumes long, each volume has exactly 1000 pages and they are placed neatly on the shelf side-by-side. It takes the worm one hour to chew through 100 pages and it takes half an hour to chew through a cover.

If the worm starts at Page One of the First Volume and chews through to Page 1000 of the Last Volume, how long does it take?

Warning: I don't know the answer, but I know that there are possible wrong assumptions.

#6557 Re: Guestbook » Great info ....... thanks » 2005-05-12 23:02:14

Thank you so much savannah and kate ... you made my day.

#6558 Re: Help Me ! » Algebra help » 2005-05-12 22:50:01

Thanks, Milos ... smile

TEAMWORK !

#6559 Re: Help Me ! » Another Algebra Problem » 2005-05-12 16:53:21

That's as far as I can get.

Just express it as:    a(c-b^2) / (a-b)

#6560 Re: Help Me ! » Algebra help » 2005-05-12 12:45:49

Cool ... I will leave it for someone else then ...

Good luck.

#6561 Re: Help Me ! » Algebra help » 2005-05-12 12:41:38

Well, we still aren't ALL the way there ... we still have 2AB to solve

#6562 Re: Help Me ! » Algebra help » 2005-05-12 12:30:52

For simplicity, let's call sqrt(x+1) "A" and sqrt(x-1) "B"

You have: (A+B)/(A-B) = (4x-1)/2

Multiply both sides by (A+B)*(A-B):    (A+B)*(A-B) * (A+B)/(A-B) = (A+B)*(A-B) *  (4x-1)/2

Cancel: (A+B)^2 = (A+B)*(A-B) *  (4x-1)/2

Expand: A^2 + 2AB + B^2 = (A^2 - B^2) * (4x-1)/2

Substitute A^2 = (x+1) and B^2 = (x-1): (x+1) + 2AB + (x-1) = ((x+1) - (x-1)) * (4x-1)/2

Simplify: 2x + 2AB = 2 * (4x-1)/2

More: 2x + 2AB = 4x - 1

More: 2AB = 2x - 1

#6563 Re: Help Me ! » Algebra help » 2005-05-12 11:54:16

I will work on it ...

I think the trick will be to multiply by [sqrt(x+1)-sqrt(x-1)]^2

Anyway, let's try and see how far we get

[sqrt(x+1)-sqrt(x-1)] * [sqrt(x+1)+sqrt(x-1)] =  [sqrt(x+1)-sqrt(x-1)]^2 * (4x-1)/2

sqrt(x+1) * sqrt(x+1) + sqrt(x+1) * sqrt(x-1) - sqrt(x-1) * sqrt(x-1) - sqrt(x-1) * sqrt(x-1) = ...

(x+1) + (terms cancel each other) - (x-1) = ...

2 =  [sqrt(x+1)-sqrt(x-1)] *  [sqrt(x+1)-sqrt(x-1)] *  (4x-1)/2

2 = [sqrt(x+1) * sqrt(x+1) - sqrt(x+1) * sqrt(x-1) - sqrt(x-1) * sqrt(x+1) + sqrt(x-1) * sqrt(x-1)] *  (4x-1)/2

2 = [(x+1) - 2 * sqrt(x+1) * sqrt(x-1) + (x-1)]  * (4x-1)/2

2 = [2x - 2 * sqrt(x+1) * sqrt(x-1) ] * (4x-1) / 2

4 = [2x - 2 * sqrt(x+1) * sqrt(x-1) ] * (4x-1)

Hmmm ... that helped a bit, let's try it again but using [sqrt(x+1)+sqrt(x-1)] * [sqrt(x+1)-sqrt(x-1)]

#6565 Re: Introductions » Greetings, one and all. » 2005-05-12 00:06:56

In Jersey French, no less  ... bouonne cache!

#6566 Re: Guestbook » maths » 2005-05-11 23:46:50

Easy puzzles?

You are either too smart, or I need to make up some harder puzzles !  smile

#6567 Re: Guestbook » mathis fun » 2005-05-11 23:45:43

What a good lot of opinions!

Is Mrs Benn your teacher?

#6568 Re: Help Me ! » Sum of positive integers 0 to N » 2005-05-11 18:39:56

Off the top of my head, you can do it with one multiplication. Middle-Value times N.

If N=5 then SUM = 1+2+3+4+5 = 15, using my idea the middle is 3, and 3 x 5 = 15
If N=6 then SUM = 1+2+3+4+5+6 = 21, using my idea the middle is 3.5 (half-way between 3 and 4) , and 3.5 x 6 = 21

This could be generalized as (Stt+End)/2 * (End-Stt+1)
where Stt=1 and End=N for your needs.

Let us try this one:

3+4+5+6=18
Using (Stt+End)/2 * (End-Stt+1): (3+6)/2 * (6-3+1) = 4.5 * 4 = 18

For your N=1000 case we would have (1+1000)/2 * (1000-1+1) = 500.5 * 1000 = 500,500

TADA !

#6569 Re: Guestbook » hey hey hey » 2005-05-11 17:27:48

And thanks for dropping by ...

#6571 Re: Maths Teaching Resources » Crazy Teachers » 2005-05-10 23:17:43

"The National Statistician has revised the population estimates for Manchester, it was announced today.

After several months of joint work between Manchester City Council and the Office of National Statistics, the National Statistician today announced the city’s current population as 422,300, a total increase of 29,500 from the 2001 Census estimate."

- from manchester.gov.uk

So, I think you are reasonably safe. By the time they find you, you will be 53.

(All the same, don't accept any invitations)

#6573 Re: Help Me ! » Maths!!!! » 2005-05-10 23:05:15

Back to work, little ones

#6574 Re: Introductions » nice to meet ya » 2005-05-10 22:57:12

Did you just do your KS3 Sats, Rora?

#6575 Re: Guestbook » add me » 2005-05-10 22:44:20

Just because we spell strangely doesn't make us weird.

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