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I agree with MathsIsFun.
But, I sometimes wonder if "God", "Allah", or whatever anyone wants to call the particular Higher Power - and if you believe in a Higher Power - I wonder if "he" wanted to give us a sign, as if to say, hey I do exist and here's proof that I exist. Many objects in nature are in the proportion of Phi, which is approximately 1.61518 / 1.
Somewhere in this forum I saw a thread on the subject of phi, and there are many websites that discuss it in detail. It is the symbol that I used for my avatar, obviously. I personally am spiritual but not connected to a parish or anything. People like Isaac Newton can be a great inspiration, because he was an extremely religious man, yet based all his science on facts.
Not that religions can't have facts of their own, it's just that those facts could be percieved as theories to people who don't necessarily believe in those kinds of facts. Newton's (and many other scientists') work was based in fact that was possible to prove, as in his Laws of Gravitation. He used Kepler's theories and built from that, and used undeniable evidence to prove that the Laws of Gravitation are the same laws that workout throughout our universe - something that wasn't just a theory, or religious-based.
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Some people have expressed concern that the LHC could create a black hole and swallow up the Earth. Seems like quite a stretch of the imagination, but who knows what could happen. This kind of thing hasn't been done before. There are several other colliders around the world, but this is the biggest one yet.
Jane, that is a great joke !
I looked it up on wiki but I still couldn't be bothered reading it.
But still u said I should at least look. and I looked. didn't I?
But anyway.....Truce?
Well apparently you did look, AFTER I asked you too. My point here is, if the information is presented to you, and you have a chance to learn something, maybe just try it first before asking someone to explain it. When you say you can't be bothered, it is bothersome for someone to explain it all when you didn't try. You did look after I asked you too, so 'nuff said....
The Large Hadron Collider is an underground circular tunnel-shaped apparatus that scientists and engineers have built in Switzerland to basically recreate the first few nanoseconds after the Big Bang, you know, the "creation" of the universe. ("Creation" I put in quotes, because of course everyone has some - or no - opinion of the how the universe all started).
It sends one proton in one direction around the circlular machine (this thing is 17 miles in circumference - I don't know what that is in kilometers right off without calculating it). The machine simultaneously sends a proton in the opposite direction, and the two particles collide. They smash into smaller particles that scientists hope will expose the Higgs particle, which a certain guy named Higgs theorized was the smallest particles that make up everthing matter.
Tigeree, if you have read all this, then great !
I will gladly tell you what I have read about if you are interested. That's the LHC in a nutshell.
Regarding a "truce", there was never a war...I just thought that the best way for someone to learn is to read about it first. That is why I gave the links towards the beginning of this thread, for anyone to read about if they wanted to comment on it, which was my hopes --- to get peoples' opinions on what has been spent on the project: $8 billion dollars.
So far the consensus has been for it, or not exactly against it in comparison to other developments in science. I welcome anyone's opinion !
I can't b bothered looking at those just explain it 2 me.
If I thought you had even a passing interest, I would think you would look them up. I can't be bothered if you don't at least look....
wots a Large Hadron Collider?
Tigeree, apparently you didn't see my URL's in my post earlier in this thread. I will repost them:
http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider
(Funny) > http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=how-long-would-it-take-the-lhc-to-d-2008-09-10
According to the article found at the third link, it would take 30 nanoseconds ! Now THAT is definitely worth it !
LOL MathsIsFun ! Those needy scientists...yeah, they gotta have jobs too !
I am glad that they are conducting these experiments, and it will be exciting to see if they can "pull it off", to "recreate" the split-second moments after the Big Bang. Maybe the Big Bang will be totally dismissed after, and some whole new theories will come out of it.
I saw on 60 Minutes (American TV) that in just the first few days after the initial collisions are executed, there will be 10 times more information than is already on the World Wide Web ! And that it will take several years to possibly get any discerning information from the data collected.
I also read today that there is a big problem with liquid Helium leakage. Anyone check out the third link I posted yet ? It talks about how long it would take the LHC to defrost a pizza ! ![]()
hey. i`m from sweden and i was wondering something.... why do you have such a complicated measuring system. you have like 3 , 17 and 1670 or something.... but in sweden(europe) we have like evrything is devided in 10 or multiplayed....
P.S srry for my bad english D.S
Yeah, like :
5,280 feet = 1 mile
3 feet = 1 yard etc... you mean like that ?
When I was in grade school (I'm American btw), the teachers told us that the US would go metric for certain. I am disappointed that it hasn't. We are exposed to a bit more metric system than back then (the '70's in my case), but we are still using the old English system. Even the British (correct me if I am wrong ! please
) are using metrics !
But I think the answer, Toyjons, to your question is that in America's case, it is part stubborness, and habit. Or arrogance and laziness, not sure.
Hello, Toot !
I agree Luca, we as mankind need to stretch the limits, and thanks for responding ![]()
8 billino isn't all that much, look at the bail-out plan in america that's been signed, 700billion ;p
besides, without scientific advancement were would our civilisation be? It is always in these experimentas that seem to have absolutely no practical use that end up being the most important advancements; think about quantum physics' implications; the creation of the transistor!
LOL My gooberment is whacked sometimes LOL !
Some links :
http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider
(Funny) > http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=how-long-would-it-take-the-lhc-to-d-2008-09-10
I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts to share about the LHC - Large Hadron Collider ?
Personally, I have mixed feelings...
On one hand, I find it extremely interesting that scientists, mathematicians, and others are breaking interesting ground in science. On the other hand, the expense ! $ 8 billion
Do you think it is worth it ?
Welcome, Sabah Teh !
Sorry to hear that, Sonic ![]()
...Or you could also check by 38 * 5 = 142+48
190=190
With "x" representing the angle in question:
5x-48=180-x
6x=228
x=38
To find the other angle "y", subtract 38 from 180 to get the supplement , which is :
y= 142
Plug this information in:
5(38)-48=180-38
142=142
So the angles are 38 degrees and 142 degrees
That doesn't make sense to me, because any positive value for x will result in a number greater than -1. Any negative value for x will result in the same. Any fractional value for x will result in a number other than -1. Maybe I am way off, but I just don't see what the solution is, other than :
sqrt(x^2-1) = sqrt [(x+1) * (x-1)]
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Welcome, Dan ! The forum has been great so far, haven't been here long myself. The regulars here are amazingly brilliant with maths.
I "love" those shirt pics ! Where are you finding them? Various places ?
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Edit: I misread the question, look at the next post for the actual answer to 1.
I thought that might be the case, Mathsy
Masood: For problem # 2, I will work it out to a point, and let you do the rest...
#2) Simplify the numerator first to make things easier to work out:
Numerator part is ...
(a in numerator cancels out an a from in denominator.Invert and multiply
with above to get:This is your numerator.
For the denominator, which is
, invert and multiply with the numerator already obtained to get the fractional expression:You should be able to simplify from here ![]()
For Problem # 3:
Look closely at what is going on there. The top expression reduces to 0. The bottom to three, resulting in a fraction of 0/3 = 0.
This is what I got for # 1:
Testing with random values for x and y, I used x=2 and y=3 to get:
Plugging my test values into the answer, I get:
and 10010 is 18 ![]()
But then what would happen when you get to 10012 ? In binary that is : 10011100011100