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#43576 Re: Jai Ganesh's Puzzles » Problems and Solutions » 2005-08-03 16:05:30

Problem # n+1
We know water absorbs light by the fact that it is dark in the ocean depths. If 10 metres of deep water absorbs 40% of the light which strikes the surface, at what depth would light striking the surface be reduced to 1/300,000 th? Assume that the rate of absorption is proportional to the light.

#43577 Re: Jai Ganesh's Puzzles » Problems and Solutions » 2005-08-02 21:00:34

Mathsy is right smile This is the complete solution.
Assuming my normal speed is 's' and the normal time taken is 't',
Distance/Time = Speed (or) Distance/Speed = Time
We get 840/s = t ---------------------(1)
The second equation would be 840/(s+5) = t-3
                                             840 = (t-3)(s+5)
                                             840 = st+5t-3s-15 -------------(2)
Subtracting (1) from (2)         840 = st     we get
                                                 0 = 5t-3s-15
Putting t = 840/s (from (1),      0 = 5(840/s) -3s - 15
                                                0 = 4200/s - 3s - 15
                                                0 = 4200 - 3s² -15s
                        3s² +15s - 4200 = 0
Dividing by 3        s² + 5s - 1400 = 0
                                                 s = [-5 ± √(25+5600)]/2
                                                 s = [-5 ± √(5625)]/2
                                                 s = (-5 ± 75 )/2
Taking the positive value,           s = 35
Therefore, my normal speed is 35 kilometres/hour.

#43578 Re: This is Cool » Easy problem » 2005-08-02 19:11:24

eleusis wrote:

Later, I found on the same website that I originally found the problem a proof showing there was a single unique solution.

Can you post the proof? I got as far as Mathsy did, that two of the numbers should be odd and one even. Maybe, the proof has got something to do with 2 being the only even prime smile

#43579 Re: Jai Ganesh's Puzzles » Problems and Solutions » 2005-08-02 16:10:54

Problem #n
The distance between two cities is 840 kilometres.
If I start driving from one city to the other at a speed
5 kilometres/hour more than my normal speed,
I save 3 hours. What is my normal speed?

#43580 Re: Jokes » Technology Jokes » 2005-08-01 16:26:48

Mathsisfun has proved that he is a Computer Scientist big_smile

#43581 Re: Help Me ! » Has anyone seen this formula before? » 2005-08-01 16:21:31

Zmurf wrote:

How did you get to the c² - 2bc (cos θ) + b² (cos θ)² ?

You can expand the terms as Mathsisfun said.
Or, you may remember the following formulae:-

1. (a+b)² = a² + 2ab + b²
2. (a-b)² = a² - 2ab + b²
3. (a+b)(a-b) = a² - b²
4. (a+b)³ = a³ + 3a²b+3ab²+ b³
5. (a-b)³ = a³ -3a²b +3ab² - b³
6. a³ + b³ = (a+b)(a² -ab +b²)
7. a³ - b³ = (a-b)(a² +ab + b²)

#43582 Re: Introductions » hi » 2005-08-01 16:12:03

I had read somewhere that animals (the most intelligent ones) cannot count beyond 7 or 8! They are good at counting up to 4, thereafter, there is a progressive decline in their ability to count, and beyond 8, they are unable to count! roll

#43583 Re: Puzzles and Games » Trains » 2005-07-31 23:03:23

There's no inactive train at all! There is only one train!
The train passes through the tunnel, heading for the park, at 8 AM.
The same train passes through the tunnel, going away from the park, at 8 PM.

#43584 Re: Help Me ! » Has anyone seen this formula before? » 2005-07-31 22:59:05

Zmurf wrote:

Oh ok. But what formula would I use if i want to find the angle oposite to side 'b' if i'm only given the lengths of sides 'a' and 'b' and the angle between them?

With the help of the formula
c² = a² + b² - 2ab Cosθ,
you can find the value of c.
Now, use the formula
b² = a² + c² - 2ac Cosθ.
You know the value of a,b, and c.
You would get
Cosθ = x (some value)
The angle opposite to side 'b' would then be
θ = Cos-¹x.
Is that clear? smile

#43585 Re: This is Cool » Which of the two is greater? » 2005-07-31 22:21:46

mathsyperson wrote:

I've got as far as the yth root of y = the xth root of x, but now I'm stuck.

Interestingly, if yth root of y = xth root of x,
it does not automatically follow that x=y
For example, if x=4 and y=2,
then this is true! roll

#43586 Re: Help Me ! » Has anyone seen this formula before? » 2005-07-31 22:15:20

Zmurf,
This formula is easier remembered as

a² = b² + c² - 2bc cosθ
On simplification of the equation given by you, this is what is obtained.
a,b, and c are the three sides of a  triangle.
If the triangle is rightangled and θ is 90 degrees or pi/2 radians,
Cos θ = 0,
which gives us
a² = b² + c²,
the Pythogoras Theorem. smile

#43587 Re: Help Me ! » what u think of this problem » 2005-07-31 21:03:13

Corrected the post; thanks, Mathsyperson. smile

#43588 Re: Guestbook » Everyone has to like him » 2005-07-31 20:57:46

You are right, Rora! Mathsisfun is remarkable big_smile

#43590 Re: This is Cool » will tehre ever be a single particle that makes EVERYTHING » 2005-07-31 18:58:40

But before that read 'A Brief Histroy of Time' by Stephen Hawking smile

#43591 Re: This is Cool » the philosophy and science behind teleportation » 2005-07-31 18:55:51

Mathematics lovers discusing Futurology and Genetics (and Cybernetics?) roll

#43592 Re: Jai Ganesh's Puzzles » Problems and Solutions » 2005-07-31 18:54:04

As always, you are corect, Mathsy!
I shall show how I did it.
Assume both candles are 'h' inches in height.
The height of the first candle reduces by h/4 every hour and that of the second reduces by h/3.
Lets assume in time 't' hours, the first is twice the height of the second.
Therefore,
h - t(h/4) = 2 [h - t(h/3)]
h - ht/4 = 2h - 2ht/3
h = 2ht/3 - ht/4
h = 5ht/12
Cancelling h on both sides,
1 = 5t/12
or t = 12/5
The unit we had taken was hours,
therefore, in 12/5 hours, that is 2 2/5 hours, one will be double the height of the other.
Simplified, it is 2 hours and 24 minutes.

#43593 Re: Help Me ! » what u think of this problem » 2005-07-31 18:36:24

MathsIsFun wrote:

Let's plug in some numbers just to get this started:

x=1: 3x^2 + x = 4y^2 +y  becomes 5 =  4y^2 +y

When we put x=1,
3x² + x = 3(1² ) + 1 = 4
Therefore,
4y² + y - 4 = 0
y = [-1 ± √ (1 + 64)]/8 = [-1 ± √ 65 ]/8
which is an irational number.
We see that here too x-y is not the square of a natural number smile

#43594 Re: Help Me ! » what u think of this problem » 2005-07-31 18:21:00

juki wrote:

x and y are two natural numbers such that 3x^2 + x = 4y^2 +y

Put x=2,
we get 4y² + y - 14 = 0, Solving,
we get y = [-1 ± √(1 + 224)] / 8
y = -2 or 1.75
Neither of them are Natural Numbers!
x - y is NOT always a square of a natural number roll

#43595 Re: Jai Ganesh's Puzzles » Problems and Solutions » 2005-07-29 19:54:39

Two candles A and B, of equal height but different circumferences, burn for 4 hours and 3 hours respectively. If the two are lit at the same time, after what time would one candle be half the height of the other? smile

#43596 Re: Help Me ! » Hi » 2005-07-29 18:22:15

Nora can paint 1/6 of a house in 1 day.
Therfore, she takes 6 days to paint the house.
Meera can paint the whole house 2 days faster.
So, she can paint the house in 4 days.
In one day, Meera can paint 1/4 of the house.
If both of them paint the house together, in one day,
they can paint (1/6+1/4) of th house. That is,
10/24 or 5/12. Therefore, the whole house can be painted
by them in 12/5 days, that is 2 2/5 days. smile

#43597 Re: This is Cool » the philosophy and science behind teleportation » 2005-07-28 18:27:54

We are discussing this 2.500 years ahead of mankind roll
Maybe in 4,500 AD, brain and the body could be digitized,
maybe then the DNA pattern would be
010100101011100101011001011100011010100010110001.........................
and not
AGCTGGCTAACGTTACTGTTACACGTACGGAATCAGTTAAGCTAAGCT..........

#43598 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » do fish have a personality » 2005-07-28 16:51:29

thinkdesigns wrote:

i don't think fish have real process of their mind, it is proven that they don't feel pain.

It is wrong to assume fish don't feel pain. Any member of the animal kingdom that reacts to touch does feel pain (I think smile)

#43599 Re: This is Cool » will tehre ever be a single particle that makes EVERYTHING » 2005-07-28 16:36:40

thinkdesigns wrote:

......or will it just keep getting smaller, if we do we will have gotten to the smallest possible thing,.....

Atoms were considered to be the building blocks, then the subatomic particles were discovered....and now, it is said that the subatomic particles like neutrons, protons, electorns etc are made up of quarks;
but I am not sure whether that is true for neutrinos, mesons, muons, positrons etc. roll

#43600 Re: Help Me ! » Relation between: inv, arc, co, arcco?? » 2005-07-28 16:31:30

That is neatly explained.
Both Sin-¹x and Arcsin x are one and the same, and both are in use in Mathematics Textbooks.
To make things simple, if Sin x = 1/2,
it follows that                  Sin -¹(1/2) = x
or                                 ArcSin(1/2)  = x

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