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## #1 2015-08-20 15:12:06

phanthanhtom
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### A triangle has concurrent median, altitude and angle bisector

In triangle ABC, the median AD, altitude BH and angle bisector CE are concurrent. Prove that (BA + CA)(BC^2 + CA^2 - AB^2) = 2*BC*CA^2.

Please provide detailed proof.

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## #2 2015-08-21 06:28:07

Bob
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### Re: A triangle has concurrent median, altitude and angle bisector

hi phanthanhtom

I've tried this, on and off, all day and not got there yet.

I have got some ideas, which I'll share, as it might help you, or someone else to finish the job.

Because D is the midpoint of BC and BHC is 90, a circle, centred on D, will go through B, C  and H.

Using the cosine rule

Bob

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## #3 2015-08-23 02:45:57

Bob
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### Re: A triangle has concurrent median, altitude and angle bisector

hi phanthanhtom

OK.  Still no fresh progress so I thought I'd construct a triangle with these properties and take some measurements.  (note: If I click a line and measure it I get this format eg. mBA (overlined) = whatever.  If I select the end points I get this eg.  CA = whatever.  There is no other significance to the occasional 'm'.)

To construct this, I first drew BC and found the midpoint.  I made that the centre of a circle with radius DC and chose a point H.

I bisected angle ACB and marked point G where BH and CE intersect.

Then I extended DG and CH to find point A.

Thus, AD is a median, BH an altitude and CE an angle bisector.  They meet at G.

I then measured BA, CA and BC and calculated the two expressions.  As you can see they results are not equal.

Please check the wording of the question.

Bob

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## #4 2015-08-23 12:38:04

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### Re: A triangle has concurrent median, altitude and angle bisector

I like the OP's discrete optimization problems better.

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## #5 2015-08-26 02:20:20

phanthanhtom
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### Re: A triangle has concurrent median, altitude and angle bisector

The thing is I'm better with discrete problems than geometry, and so I rarely gets the solution.

I have checked the source again. It seems to actually be: (BC + CA)(BC^2 + CA^2 - AB^2) = 2*BC*CA^2. (First term is BC not BA).

Sorry for the fault!

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## #6 2020-08-24 06:57:03

MassaGeom
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### Re: A triangle has concurrent median, altitude and angle bisector

phanthanhtom wrote:

The thing is I'm better with discrete problems than geometry, and so I rarely gets the solution.

I have checked the source again. It seems to actually be: (BC + CA)(BC^2 + CA^2 - AB^2) = 2*BC*CA^2. (First term is BC not BA).

Sorry for the fault!

The simple proof of (BC+CA)(BC^2+CA^2-AB^2)=2*BC*CA^2:
1) AC/CB=AL/LB - angle bisector theorem
2) AL/LB*BD/DC*CH/AH - Cevas theorem for ABC and AD, BH, CL; BD=DC => AL/LB=AH/HC
3) CH=BC*cosC - because BHC=90
4) {1), 2), 3)} =>AC/CB=AL/LB=AH/HC=AH/(CB*cosC) => AC*cosC=AH => (AH+HC)*cosC=AH => (1+CH/AH)cosC=1.
cosC=(AC^2+BC^2-AB^2)/(2*AC*BC) and CH/AH=CB/AC (by {1), 2)}) => (1+CB/AC)*(AC^2+BC^2-AB^2)/(2*AC*BC)=1 =>
(BC+CA)(BC^2+CA^2-AB^2) = 2*BC*CA^2. Done!

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