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#102 Re: Exercises » One Equation with Two Unknowns » 2023-12-08 11:02:43

Hi Kerim;

Yes, I basically did the same as you in Excel.

Also, here's a Mathematica formula, with constraints that a & b are positive integers:

In[1]:= Reduce[17a+29b==1000&&a>0&&b>0,{a,b},Integers]

Out[1]= (a==23&&b==21)||(a==52&&b==4)

#103 Re: Help Me ! » bbcode help » 2023-11-15 15:17:26

Hi Bob;

Great work!

A couple of things:

I'd change

:P and :p

produce tongue

to

:P and :p produce 

tongue

and include

:rolleyes produces 

rolleyes

...and probably also 'BBCode help' instead of 'bbcode help' in the thread title.

#105 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » is there a listing of *all* the smilies (emoticons) we can use? » 2023-11-15 02:06:41

bcc...should be BBC. Just checking BBCode's strike-through Text Style option. wink

Thx for the Help Me! page work!

#107 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » is there a listing of *all* the smilies (emoticons) we can use? » 2023-11-15 01:58:21

Hi Bob;

The BBCode help page link appears under the message box when you're posting, but not at other times, I think.

#109 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » is there a listing of *all* the smilies (emoticons) we can use? » 2023-11-15 01:34:38

Bob wrote:

At some stage would it be worth moving the list to the top of the help section like the Latex one?

Yes, I reckon so! up

Would someone like the task of checking these: https://tl.net/forum/smilies.php  ? Some of these may work on MIF.
Bob

Only 5 of them do, but they're already on our list.

#110 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » is there a listing of *all* the smilies (emoticons) we can use? » 2023-11-15 01:14:03

Hi amnkb;

There's a better list here:

smile  neutral  sad  big_smile  yikes  wink  hmm  tongue  lol  mad  roll  cool  dizzy  eek  kiss  roflol  rolleyes  shame  down  up  touched  sleep  wave  swear  tongue  what  faint  dunno

I don't know of any other MIF smilies.

#111 Re: Help Me ! » Tricky or Lengthy Word Problems » 2023-11-15 00:58:12

amnkb wrote:

aw, thank you!
you're so sweet!
<3

That's ok...sometimes I surprise myself!! eek

Here's a link to a helpful MIF page with examples: Algebra/Word Questions.

Many years ago (19 August 2009, to be precise) I posted a word puzzle along the lines of those on that MIF page, but somewhat tougher: Edna's age. There's some discussion there about solving methods, including a couple of different algebraic options.

#112 Re: Help Me ! » Tricky or Lengthy Word Problems » 2023-11-14 18:56:51

Hi amnkb;

sologuitar wrote:

What is the best way to solve tricky or lengthy word problems?

Yes, good find! up

#113 Re: Help Me ! » Find Coordinates of Point A » 2023-11-10 11:47:27

Hi amnkb;

amnkb wrote:

sry i dont know how to help on an iphone
(if youd been on an android phone then youd know what google play store is and how to search for stuff in it)
(my bad- i'd just assumed)

harpazo1965 posted:
...I have an android AS 21 T-Mobile phone...
...my android phone A21...

Googling "Android AS 21" failed to find one of those, but turned up these:
   Samsung Galaxy A21 (released April 2020)
   Samsung Galaxy A21s (released May 2020)
   Samsung Galaxy S21 (released January 2021)

So I think he has an Android...a Samsung Galaxy (model unclear).

Edit: Post #11 (11/11/2023):

sologuitar wrote:

...My Android AS-21...

Google failed to find that model too.

#114 Re: Puzzles and Games » Fibonacci Number and Perfect Squares » 2023-11-06 10:25:33

iiooasd1217 wrote:

How many perfect squares are in the Fibonacci sequence? This problem can be extended to ... the tribonacci.

Hi iiooasd1217,

I only found six solutions (0, 1, 4, 81, 3136 and 10609) in the first 100,000 tribonacci numbers.

10609 is the 19th tribonacci number (sequence A000073 in the OEIS).

And as with the Fibonacci problem, I called a halt in my search at 100,000.

My Mathematica code:

In[1]:= AbsoluteTiming[Select[Sqrt@LinearRecurrence[{1,1,1},{0,0,1},100000],IntegerQ]^2]

Out[1]= {7393.1776884,{0,0,1,1,4,81,3136,10609}}

#115 Re: Puzzles and Games » Fibonacci Number and Perfect Squares » 2023-11-01 18:17:41

iiooasd1217 wrote:

How many perfect squares are in the Fibonacci sequence?

Hi iiooasd1217,

I could only find 0, 1 and 144 in the first 100,000 Fibonacci numbers.

144 is the 13th Fibonacci number (sequence A000045 in the OEIS).

My Mathematica code:

In[1]:= AbsoluteTiming[Select[Sqrt@LinearRecurrence[{1,1},{0,1},100000],IntegerQ]^2]
Out[1]= {5206.4986953,{0,1,1,144}}

Computing speed with that code is about the same as with M's Fibonacci function: Table[Fibonacci[n], {n, 100000}].

Testing to 1M would tie up my computer for longer than I'd like, so I'll quit now.

Also, extending my test range may be a fruitless exercise, as in his article Square Fibonacci Numbers, Etc, John H. E. Cohn 'apparently' proves that there are no more results than just the three I found.

I say 'apparently', because his proof is way beyond my understanding. dizzy

The article begins:
     "An old conjecture about Fibonacci numbers is that 0, 1 and 144 are the only perfect squares. Recently there appeared a report that computation had revealed that among the first million numbers in the sequence there are no further squares [1]. This is not surprising, as I have managed to prove the truth of the conjecture..."

#116 Re: Help Me ! » Surds. Division Rules. » 2023-10-30 08:54:11

This is from MIF's Order of Operations...PEMDAS (same as BODMAS) page:

HhXU1G4.jpg

Substituting variables for the number components, Mathematica (like WolframAlpha) simplifies the expression like this...


...and like this:

When giving the {a,b,c,d} variables their respective {4,64,2,4} values, Mathematica returns the answer 32.

#117 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » SSL expired? » 2023-10-22 00:57:04

Jai Ganesh wrote:

I got a reply and the problem is solved by around GMT 4 AM.

Thanks! up

#118 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » SSL expired? » 2023-10-21 22:17:28

I just checked the this method link that previously gave me the 'Privacy error' message (see my post #2), and it now works fine.

All other links that I tried also open, and so it seems that the issue has been resolved. up

#119 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » SSL expired? » 2023-10-21 10:50:40

amnkb wrote:

when i went to log in today i got a 'not secure' warning screen
now that i'm logged in chrome has a 'not secure' warning on the url
'https' is crossed out
did ssl cert expire?

Hi amnkb,

I don't get a warning when logging in, but when I click on your this method link from harpazo1965's 'Upgrade Picture Uploads' thread, I get this:

ls2NkFb.png

Strangely, I don't get the warning when clicking on the above harpazo1965 thread link. dizzy

#120 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » Upgrade Picture Uploads » 2023-10-17 12:20:32

amnkb wrote:

does this method work at all?

Hi amnkb;

I've just posted an update to that thread by listing the browsers and which desktop views they support.

#121 Re: Help Me ! » Image test 2 » 2023-10-17 12:14:13

phrontister wrote:

Here's a link to some info on enabling/disabling the desktop version view on a range of browsers: How to View Desktop Version of Any Site on Mobile. Maybe the desktop view gives the ability to copy the url of the actual image (ie, one with an image extension) instead of an imgur web page?

That link opens a webpage that begins: "Most websites are optimized for mobile, but that doesn't mean you can't view the desktop version on your smartphone."

What I didn't mention was that there are two version options ('All Sites' and 'Specific Sites'), and below are links to the options mentioned in the article:

Chrome (Android & iOS) - All Sites
Chrome (Android & iOS) - Specific Sites
Edge (Android & iOS) - All Sites
Firefox (Android) - Specific Sites
Brave (Android) - All Sites
Brave (Android) - Specific Sites
Vivaldi (Android) - All Sites
Vivaldi (Android) - Specific Sites
Opera Mobile (Android & iOS) - Specific Sites

The webpage was last updated September 2023.

#122 Re: Help Me ! » Equilateral Triangle » 2023-10-13 21:44:59

This interactive tool of MIF's may help visualise what's going on: Interactive Cartesian Coordinates

It has several options you can choose from (eg, regular or irregular shapes, choice of the number of sides, entry of custom coordinates).

However, it will only display one shape at a time, and, unlike Geogebra, it lacks mathematical precision...but it's accurate enough to give a pretty good idea.

#123 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Twinkling of An Eye » 2023-10-11 13:43:31

This is from math.stackexchange.com:
   I want to know how long a "twinkling of an eye" would be. A twinkling of an eye is the time it takes from the moment the light hits the front of the eye, until it hits the back of the eye and is reflected back.

And here's the link to the discussion thread: How long would it take for light to go through a human eyeball and back to the other side.

I also found the following entry & definition in Answers.com (down the page a bit, under "More answers"):
   "Just how fast is the 'twinkling of an eye'? It is not the time it takes to blink an eye: For you to see someone's eye twinkle, light must travel through the front of their eye, be reflected off their retina, and then exit their eye. Assuming (for the ease of calculation) that you are standing so close to that person that the transmission time from eyeball-to-eyeball can be regarded as instantaneous, and that a person's eyeball is 2.5 cm in diameter, the light would have to travel a distance of 5 cm (or 1/20,000th or 2 x 10^-4 of a kilometer). Since the speed of light is 300,000 (or 3 x 105) km/sec, this means it would take or 1/6 x 10^-9 seconds (ie, 1/2 x 1/3 x 10^-4 x 10^-5 seconds), or 1/6,000,000,000th of a second to make a person's eyeball twinkle: pretty fast."

#124 Re: Help Me ! » How do I know if I've successfully drawn a cube? » 2023-10-10 10:45:10

paulb203 wrote:

If I draw a square, 2cm by 2cm, then draw another square, also 2cm by 2cm, starting the second from the centre of the first, in the manner children attempt to draw their first cube (and in the manner I still occasionally try to draw a cube and wonder if it’s actually a cube. Then I join the corners of the two squares in the same manner...

Sorry, paulb203, I should have posted this earlier:

eH7SESI.png

So what I've done there is to find BF by using Pythagoras, after working out the lengths of KF and KB.

paulb203 wrote:

...have I actually drawn a cube?

No, because the lines that join the corners of the two squares are 1.414cm long instead of the 2cm that they should be (see the above Pythagorean proof).

My 2d representation of a 3d cube may look like a cube, but it actually isn't one: it's just that the connecting lines lead our minds to believe that it is (see posts 2 & 3).

#125 Re: Help Me ! » How do I know if I've successfully drawn a cube? » 2023-10-08 14:00:58

Bob wrote:

I wondered if this means our brains are different so I turned my laptop upside down to see if an Oz perspective changed anything. It didn't!
Bob

Nope, that wouldn't work; both you and the laptop have to be upside down (ie, from your perspective up where you are). shame  That's how we do it down here.

That way (the correct way), if you drop your laptop, it falls up to the ground (where you could find it again...albeit in bits & pieces) instead of down to the sky (from where it would be irretrievable). That's from your inverted perspective, of course.

Bob wrote:

Nah, I'm not getting that. On the right it now seems like a shape that is getting larger towards the back.Bob

A couple of things you could try (for simplicity with referencing, I'll refer to the left-hand image, but the same would apply to the other one):
1. (a) Focus on the little square (ie, the region where the front and back walls overlap).
    (b) Concentrate on that and let your brain relax into neutral (to make it believe you're not up to any tricks).
    (c) Casually – and maybe even humming or whistling nonchalantly (the brain musn't suspect anything) – observe peripherally the role reversal of the green and red squares: ie, that the green is now the front, higher, smaller square, and the red is now the rear, lower, larger square.
    (d) Squinting may help (vary squinting severity if you're getting nowhere with it).

2. Using paulb203's method from the first paragraph of post #1, construct the left-hand image to look like mine.
    However, whereas I started with the red image as the front wall, followed by the green image as the back wall to the right, and higher than, the front wall, try starting with the green image as the front wall, followed by the red image as the back wall to the left, and lower than, the front wall.

Enjoy! big_smile

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