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#1 2008-07-21 05:00:48

tony123
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Determine

Let

and
be prime numbers

such that

and


Determine all possible values of


.

Last edited by tony123 (2008-07-21 05:01:18)

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#2 2008-07-22 06:53:25

ZHero
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Re: Determine

I've found one possible answer and i wonder if there are others too..


or

with
being the greatest of all!

Now..

means that
should be somewhere around
!
using the first set of inequalities, we notice that
can be somewhere round 17 which finally lets us conclude that
may either be 7 or 5 giving possible values of
as 3 or 2 !

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#3 2008-07-22 07:14:25

ZHero
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Re: Determine

Now, if we select

then we get
which doesn't hold for any prime
&
!
The same is true for
too!
But, for
, we get
which is satisfied for
!

Finally..

are the numbers we're looking for and we can find the value of the required expression!

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#4 2008-07-22 07:30:54

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Re: Determine

I understand that there's nothing so TECHNICAL about this method of mine..
Its just simple logic being put into the problem to guess/reduce the possible values of a, b, c & d and then verifying the final value!
I wonder if there's a more DIRECT method!?

From above, a possible value of

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#5 2008-07-23 05:08:00

tony123
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Re: Determine

thank you ZHero

nice work
and

Since a^2-b^2 +c^2-d^2 is odd, one of the primes a, b, c and d must be 2,
and in view of a > 3b > 6c > 12d we must have d = 2.

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