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#1 2008-07-05 06:25:40

tony123
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Square

prove that


is a Square
 

with

a positive integer

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#2 2008-07-05 06:49:20

Daniel123
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Re: Square

It's not...

....

???

Last edited by Daniel123 (2008-07-05 06:50:39)

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#3 2008-07-05 07:00:02

tony123
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Re: Square

im sory

a positive integer

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#4 2008-07-05 20:51:19

Kurre
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Re: Square

iirc this problem is considered one of the most difficult problems ever submitted in the IMO...:O

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#5 2008-07-06 00:24:42

ZHero
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Re: Square

The equation has only solution N=m=n=1 !
Consider..
(m^2+n^2)/(mn+1)
upon actual division, we get remainder equal to (n/m-m/n) which should be 0 (because its less than mn+1)for N to be an integer!
So, (n/m-m/n)=0
or, m=n
hence, N=2m^2/(m^2+1)
which on division gives the remainder as 2=/=0
therefore, for N to be integer, divisor must divide 2 which is possible only when m^2+1=2 or m=1 (all numbers are positive)!
Which gives N=1 which is of course a square!
tongue
any comments are welcome!

BTW, would anyone please be kind enough to take a little pain in teaching me how to write the codes for the above equations to make them look more tidy??

Last edited by ZHero (2008-07-06 00:28:49)


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#6 2008-07-06 00:33:56

JaneFairfax
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Re: Square

ZHero wrote:

The equation has only solution N=m=n=1 !

You’re wrong.

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#7 2008-07-06 00:45:54

ZHero
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Re: Square

Wow!
I always thought that maths was never easy!!
swear
anyways, lemme check if i've got how to write the above..

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#8 2008-07-06 00:47:12

ZHero
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Re: Square

Heck!
Where am i going wrong??:o


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#9 2008-07-06 01:35:55

tony123
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Re: Square

use[ ][/ ] , don t use [/ ] [/ ]

Last edited by tony123 (2008-07-06 01:38:29)

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#10 2008-07-06 01:44:32

ZHero
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Re: Square

tony123 wrote:

use[ ][/ ] , don t use [/ ] [/ ]

oooh!
I edited the earlier post and ITS WORKING!
Thanks tony123!
And, i've seen that MOST of your questions are unanswered and they obviously are from Olympiads... Right?
Well, where from do you get these questions?
And if you know the solution to any of those, then do enlighten us too!
The questions are really really amazing and i must say "they add to the beauty of mathematics!!"
roflol


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#11 2008-07-06 01:48:08

ZHero
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Re: Square

Anyways, here's something!


and for N to be square, at least one of N, m, n should be 2!
And it can't be N!
What next?shame


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