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wustvn

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Registered: 2007-09-23

Posts: 8

Numbers in Tables : Part 2

Hello to all of you guys here... 
I'd like to post a number puzzle, which had been brought to many forums, but yet nobody can work it out properly. I'm not a puzzles mania, this just really disturbs my mind. I hope you guys here can help me. 
This number puzzle is in .xls file format. It looks like SUDOKU/HITORI. Since here I can't attach .xls file (686 KB), I put it (name: sept09A.xls) at: 
http://217.174.252.57/JForum-2.1.6/posts/list/1359.page
(Don't worry this is being a spam ). 
There are tables contain of 10 rows (1,2,3,...,10) each. 
Each tables contains of numbers, which here I give example 1 to 40, that should be found its relationships/patterns, so the next numbers can be placed correctly in a certain rows in each tables. 
In EACH tables, each numbers appears just one time and there will be no same numbers vertically, horizontally and diagonally. 
Tables 1-20 in sheet #2, Tables 21-32 in sheet #3, Tables 33-44 in sheet #4,..., Tables 273-284 in sheet #24. 
I name and arrange the tables just like that, though you can do else. 
In sheet #1 you can see Tables 1-20 have been filled with numbers 1 to 350. 
In sheet #25 you can see that total amount of the numbers in each rows are almost its average, so this isn't random and it should have a solution, shouldn't it? 
(I hope this can explain the problems clearly). 
Thank you to those who want to pay attentions and interested in this puzzle. 

P.S: 
1. Because of their similar shapes, in sheet #26 & #27 I rearranged the tables that I think could be the "keys" of this puzzle. 
2. This "big sizes" puzzle is tough, (artistic?) and really needs hard thinking... 

Best regards 
Steven Wu 
Bali - Indonesia

Last edited by wustvn (2008-07-24 19:29:17)

wustvn

Member

Registered: 2007-09-23

Posts: 8

Re: Numbers in Tables : Part 2

I need to write again here what I’ve been doing to this puzzle, though this had been written partly in other forum. I assume you guys have seen the file sept09A.xls.
I’m not a puzzle mania, this puzzle just disturbs my mind. So to those whoever interested in this puzzle, I THINK the tables in my explanation below are the “keys” of this puzzle because:
1).Their shapes are quite different from other tables, where numbers 1 to 40 are only in certain rows. Especially in Table 45, numbers 1 to 40 are only in rows 1 & 10. (This can also approve that this is not a random case. Do you guys agree with that?). Meanwhile for other tables, numbers 1 to 40 spread almost in rows 1 to 10.
2).These tables have similar shapes each other.
E.g:
Table 45 has similar shape with Table 49 & Table 53.
Table 57 has similar shape with Table 61 & Table 65.
Here below I think tables that have similar shapes:
45,57,69,81,93,105,117,129,141,153,165,177,189,201,213,225,237,249,261,2 73.
with
49,61,73,85,97,109,121,133,145,157,169,181,193,205,217,229,241,253,265,2 77.
and
53,65,77,89,101,113,125,137,149,161,173,185,197,209,221,233,245,257,269, 281.

These tables “themselves” look similar.
E.g:
Table 49 looks similar with Table 169.
Table 73 looks similar with Table 193.
Here below I think tables look similar:
49,73,97,121,145,53,77,101,125,149,57,81,105,129,153,61,85,109,133,157,6 5,89,113,137,161,69,93,117,141,45
with
169,193,217,241,265,173,197,221,245,269,177,201,225,249,273,181,205,229, 253,277,185,209,233,257,281,189,213,237,261,165

Next time I’ll try to explain more details about the gray areas (my approaching method) as shown in Table 1, sheet #1, file sept09A.xls.
Yeah, for its big sizes, this puzzle is really tough. Needs geniuses to crack it, at least above averages…