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#1 2007-07-03 16:46:04

Dharshi
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Need helpppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Give an example of a function which is continuous on the whole real line but fails to be differentiable at exactly 2 points.

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#2 2007-07-03 17:03:34

Ricky
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Re: Need helpppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This isn't too bad of a question.  Just remember one thing: You can define a function piecewise:

f(x) =

x^2 if x > 0
-x if x <= 0

This function is continuous.  It is definitely differentiable at everywhere but 0.  Is it differentiable at 0?


"In the real world, this would be a problem.  But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist.  So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

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#3 2007-07-03 21:13:20

JaneFairfax
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Re: Need helpppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another example:

This one is continuous everywhere and not differentiable at exactly two points (which is what is required). smile

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#4 2007-07-03 21:50:45

Dharshi
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Re: Need helpppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JaneFairfax wrote:

Another example:

This one is continuous everywhere and not differentiable at exactly two points (which is what is required). smile

Oh!! Thanks a lot.:lol:

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#5 2007-07-03 22:10:06

JaneFairfax
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Re: Need helpppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You’re welcome. The important question though is: do you know why it is not differentiable at those two points where it’s not differentiable?

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#6 2007-07-03 22:16:32

Dharshi
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Re: Need helpppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JaneFairfax wrote:

You’re welcome. The important question though is: do you know why it is not differentiable at those two points where it’s not differentiable?

I think the graph has holes on (-1,1).
Am I right?

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#7 2007-07-05 00:12:51

HallsofIvy
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Re: Need helpppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dharshi wrote:
JaneFairfax wrote:

You’re welcome. The important question though is: do you know why it is not differentiable at those two points where it’s not differentiable?

I think the graph has holes on (-1,1).
Am I right?

No, you are not.  The graph having "holes" would mean the function is not continuous.   That is not the case here.  Have you drawn the graph?  I recommend you do that.

#8 2007-07-05 05:40:48

John E. Franklin
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Re: Need helpppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's another one with absolute value.  Enjoy!
      y = | 6 - x^2 |
First figure it out without the absolute value signs, then anything below the
x-axis, bounce it up to the positive area above the x-axis.


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