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You are not logged in. #1 2007-06-22 13:21:34
What is a Function?I have been a bit adventurous and written a draft page on What is a Function?. "The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..." - Leon M. Lederman #2 2007-06-22 13:56:52
Re: What is a Function?
This is not correct, by normal standards. Square root is a function, this is why when solving equations we typically write something such as: We need the plus or minus in there because when we say "square root" we mean the positive root. It would be nice to mention that we define square root this way because we want it to be a function. If you want an example of something that isn't a function, sin-¹ is not. It only becomes a function when the domain of sin is restricted to (-pi, pi). A picture with the vertical line test would help as not many know what sin-¹ looks like. "In the real world, this would be a problem. But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist. So we'll go ahead and do that now..." #3 2007-06-22 16:12:49
Re: What is a Function?So if there is no infront of the square root, it means it is positive?#4 2007-06-22 16:20:11
Re: What is a Function?Correct. "In the real world, this would be a problem. But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist. So we'll go ahead and do that now..." #5 2007-06-22 17:39:19
Re: What is a Function?
Good idea. Plot looks like this: Plot of asin(x). "The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..." - Leon M. Lederman #6 2007-06-22 18:22:31
Re: What is a Function?
Square root is indeed a function for non-negative real numbers. However, it is not a function for negative real numbers or complex numbers (since, for complex numbers in general, there is no positive or negative). For example, √(−1) = ±i. Last edited by JaneFairfax (2007-06-22 18:36:16) #7 2007-06-23 00:33:00
Re: What is a Function?Ah, true Jane. In that case, I would stick with square root and leave out sin-¹, and say that the square root is a function over positive real numbers, but it isn't a function over all real numbers, using -1 as an example. I would also make sure to emphasize with this example that whether something is a function or not can depend on what set you use for the domain, and that you can use just about any set you want. "In the real world, this would be a problem. But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist. So we'll go ahead and do that now..." #8 2007-06-25 11:33:47
Re: What is a Function?Redid What is a Function? and Domain, Range and Codomain. "The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..." - Leon M. Lederman #9 2007-06-27 18:33:23
Re: What is a Function?I can't seem to see the 'not single valued' image. It just shows as text. #10 2007-06-27 19:00:00
Re: What is a Function?The image with the alt text “not single valued" seems to be missing. #11 2007-06-27 20:15:19
Re: What is a Function?Ahh, thanks, fixed it. "The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..." - Leon M. Lederman #12 2007-07-01 16:10:05
Re: What is a Function?Yes. Now that the problem is fixed, it may be added. Character is who you are when no one is looking. #13 2007-07-01 16:33:16
Re: What is a Function?Thanks g-man! "The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..." - Leon M. Lederman #14 2009-09-14 13:55:43
Re: What is a Function?I have redone the What is a Function? page. "The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..." - Leon M. Lederman #15 2009-09-14 17:08:10
Re: What is a Function?Hi MathsisFun; Last edited by bobbym (2009-09-14 17:20:25) In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #16 2009-09-14 17:49:26
Re: What is a Function?Thanks! Will fix. "The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..." - Leon M. Lederman #17 2009-10-08 15:41:05
Re: What is a Function?Well you wouldn't believe it, but I have been working on this page again. I wanted to make it clear that a function is a special type of relationship (a relationship may be valid but not a function). "The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..." - Leon M. Lederman #18 2009-10-08 18:54:57
Re: What is a Function?Hi MathsisFun;
I agree, your fundamentals determine your success. Last edited by bobbym (2009-10-08 19:00:22) In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. |