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#1 2006-12-24 01:47:39

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Xmas-Chess

I was thinking of a kind of "superchess" that you can play on christmas.

These are the rules for the game that I made: When a piece is about to take a piece of the same kind, both becomes the brownie equivalent of that piece. Each brownie equivalent gets a litte cap (that looks like a knitted cap), for distinguishing purposes.
All you need to play christmas chess is those caps and a chess board.

These are the rules for brownies:
1.A brownie pawn can move backwards and forwards and can take any piece except pawns and those with caps, through any single diagonal step.

2.Instead of a piece with cap taking another piece with cap of the same kind, they switch place.

3.When a normal piece or its brownie equivalent is about to take the other, the brownie equivalent gives the knitted cap to the other piece, and they do not take eachother.

4.If a brownie pawn gets to the other side, it becomes the brownie equivalent to any player you transform to.

Properties of the brownie equivalent to the:

Queen
The "queen brownie" (swedish: tomtemor*) A queen brownie is a queen with queen abilities but combined with the horses ability of being able to ignore existant players. It cannot take nor jump over a queen, knitted cap or not. Neither can it take any brownie.

Bishop
A bishop brownie is a bishop with bishop abilities but combined with the horses ability of being able to ignore existant players.  It cannot take nor jump over a bishop, knitted hat or not. Neither can it take any brownie.

Tower
A tower brownie is a tower with tower abilities but combined with the horses ability of being able to ignore existant players. It cannot take nor jump over a tower, knitted hat or not. Neither can it take any brownie.

Horse
A horse brownie is a reindeer with horse abilities but it destroys all enemy players in its path.  It cannot move in a way so that it attacks or jumps over a horse, knitted hat or not. Neither can it take any brownie.


*Santa's wife

If a brownie equivalent check mate a player, the threatened king becomes santa, and all of the pieces of the checkmated player becomes brownies and christmas is here, the one that made santa wins.

You say "X-mas is here" instead of checkmate.

Note: Rules updated, re-read the bold parts

When king is in stalemate it becomes a snowman. In all other ways, it is identical to normal chess

(c)

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#2 2006-12-24 02:54:56

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Re: Xmas-Chess

Very nice idea. This could work.

I'm a little confused about the rules, however.

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#3 2006-12-24 03:28:17

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What rule are you confused by?


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#4 2006-12-24 04:11:08

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Not necessarily a single rule. I just am confused about the 'brownie' stuff...

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#5 2006-12-24 04:48:49

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Swedish "tomte" = brownie according to the internet lexikon. It's a mythological creature that helps santa to make the presents.

brownie  = santa's little helper

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#6 2006-12-24 06:00:55

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Oh, OK. I thought you were referring to the brownie cakes.

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#7 2006-12-24 08:30:45

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And you thought it might work?


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#8 2006-12-24 08:48:24

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Could be something to work on over the Christmas Holidays?

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#9 2006-12-24 09:28:09

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Yeah!

The AI would be slightly different from that of normal chess simulators. My father is playing normal chess with my sisters boyfriend as we speak. How is your christmas turning out?


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#10 2006-12-24 09:58:36

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I'm not really looking forward to Christmas...I've just gotten tired of it. Someone help me get into the Christmas Spirit, Christmas is in 2 hours for me!

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#11 2006-12-24 10:16:15

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I like you, Devante. You're a good friend. Please do have a merry christmas.

I was also thinking of making an eggclock mobile, so that you could shut it down for x minutes, without the fuzz. For elderly phoners, if nothing else.

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#12 2006-12-24 10:31:02

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Thank you, you too. smile

Have you played 'Christmas Chess' before?

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#13 2006-12-24 12:33:48

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Re: Xmas-Chess

The chessboard should have blue and yellow squares. Why?


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#14 2006-12-24 20:32:46

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Because the Swedish flag is blue with a yellow cross, I guess? smile

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#15 2006-12-24 23:16:48

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Or red and white squares. Because of its christmas properties. How about only the squares where one player can move to and the other player can take the piece in light up? I think that invention was discussed in the x-files. Or was that something else? dunno.

I am thinking, perhaps the square shines red if black player can take white, and white if the white player can take black.

What about instead of colouring the chess different, you have an ON button and XMAS lightdiodes under every square? Since you probably play it on christmas, you can save the batteries until next year. or put them somewhere they make use.

But on a computer, there is nothing forbidding blue and yellow squares. Neither in real life. Do as you feel. I guess you want them to be because of its origin and that it is almost a totaly new game? Or because you don't think it might work?

Anyway, all I want from anyone who makes the game with the rules in the first post of this thread is |3%| of what you sold the product containing it for and credit for making the rules and if you don't give me that, then it is my will that you may not sell it. If you don't give me that then you shall by law be forced to do so in the highest degree possible currently and through selling a game with my rules you accept that.

If the product containing the game with the rules in my first post in this thread is given or used for free, then no costs are paid to me obviously unless credits is a cost, then only that is payed. You need to give me credits for making the rules still.

Is that ok? Obviously no one will want to give it away for free (unless to draw attention to a site), when all i want is 3%.

If you want my adress to know where to send the money and/or name for credits in case you are interested, then I suggest that you mail me on this adress: formatrix@sailormoon.com

If 3% is 2 much, then convince me by discussing. Is one procent plausible?

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#16 2006-12-25 10:29:11

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LQ, I think it's a bit complicated for a christmas-only game... Also, the thing about the 3% made me laugh, I'm very sorry, but it did. What law are you referring to by the way?


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#17 2006-12-25 10:39:34

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Seems a bit complicated, but I bet it is quite fun and we'll probably eventually get the hang of it. smile

About the 3% thing...do you mean used as a normal Flash application or an actual, 'real and live' board game?

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#18 2006-12-25 11:14:15

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The fun potential is definitely there, but the dollar potential isn't. If you are lucky a game will earn cents a day from ads, but then there are the costs of hosting.


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#19 2006-12-25 22:14:10

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Yeah, basically it's free if you make an internet game out of it. Since you wouldn't sell the product. So I give you permission to make the game (under the terms I have made)

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#20 2006-12-25 22:21:47

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Re: Xmas-Chess

The thing about Santa appearing sounds pretty nice. It's like shaking your winning or defeated opponent's hand.

What about when the game is stalemate?

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#21 2006-12-25 22:32:01

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When the king moves in the same way over and over and over again? Stalemate is always the same i think. Or is stalemate when you can't move at all?

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#22 2006-12-25 23:08:29

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Patrick wrote:

LQ, I think it's a bit complicated for a christmas-only game... Also, the thing about the 3% made me laugh, I'm very sorry, but it did. What law are you referring to by the way?

Upphovsrättslagen? (use a swedish english dictionary)

It works like this: you are my friends, I play christmas chess, you play christmas chess, I came up with it and was the first to make the design, so eventually, not to say directly I get "upphovsrätt".

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#23 2006-12-26 00:01:42

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Stalemate: The player to move has no legal move and is not in check. This may be because the moves are physically blocked, or because they would expose a royal piece to check.

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#24 2006-12-26 00:31:38

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Upphovsrättslagen? A Swedish law ("lag") according to Wikipedia: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upphovsr%C3%A4ttslagen

"Svensk lag som reglerar upphovsrätten och således bl.a. innehåller begränsningar i rätten att fritt kopiera och sprida verk av olika slag."

rolleyes See?

And a legal opinion here: http://www.legalahandboken.netuniversity.se/fragor/undervisning/upphovsratt/anvand_text/text2.html

Get that dictionary out!

Perhaps it is something like copyright?


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#25 2006-12-26 01:42:05

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MathsIsFun wrote:

Upphovsrättslagen? A Swedish law ("lag") according to Wikipedia: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upphovsr%C3%A4ttslagen

"Svensk lag som reglerar upphovsrätten och således bl.a. innehåller begränsningar i rätten att fritt kopiera och sprida verk av olika slag."

rolleyes See?

And a legal opinion here: http://www.legalahandboken.netuniversity.se/fragor/undervisning/upphovsratt/anvand_text/text2.html

Get that dictionary out!

Perhaps it is something like copyright?

It is something like copyright yes. It is selfdeclaring, I have heard.

In simple terms, I did the rules, I did the game, all that do the same thing -PAY ME! (accordingly)
Until 70 years after I'm dead.

Upphovsrättslagen also applies to designs. Do I have to mention I've allready made the pieces?

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