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## #1 2006-08-01 21:04:23

MathsIsFun
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### Apparently it is OK to say "hey ppl itz da best, k cu ltr"

A study by University of Toronto says texting is not harmful: http://www.news.utoronto.ca/bin6/060731-2474.asp

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## #2 2006-08-01 21:25:52

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### Re: Apparently it is OK to say "hey ppl itz da best, k cu ltr"

they wish

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## #3 2006-08-01 22:59:58

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### Re: Apparently it is OK to say "hey ppl itz da best, k cu ltr"

What that article is saying is true, but I know a lot of people who talk using acronyms, shortened words and emoticons (yes, emoticons! >.<). A conversation I heard the other day between two girls:

"Lol that was so g-r-8!"
"yeah all the ppl were like oh itz da worst evar! i mean, that dod was g-r-8!"
"btw was was ur asl agin?"
"brb"

Not only is that slightly hard to understand, but it is kinda stupid, not to mention lazy. What's the point in substituting 'by the way' with 'btw'? Or 'ur' with 'you are'?

It's not too big of a problem, but I think it is slowly heading that way. It's just takes one person to start it all off...

And what confuses me is that fact that one of them asked for asl. Shouldn't it be obvious? O_o

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## #4 2006-09-17 19:21:19

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### Re: Apparently it is OK to say "hey ppl itz da best, k cu ltr"

I text alot i am the biggest texter ever and some times when i write or type instead of writing you i write u and same with other text words so i am trying to cut back on the texting.

Theres no other place like home or is there..............

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## #5 2006-09-17 23:38:29

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### Re: Apparently it is OK to say "hey ppl itz da best, k cu ltr"

I think that with texting, it's fine to use that kind of shorthand as long as it's still understandable, because texting has a much lower word per minute rate than typing, writing or talking. Anywhere else and using shorthand is just lazy. Especially if you're talking. "Ell oh ell ur reli funi equals dee oh emm gee"

There's nothing wrong with emoticons though, as long as they're used in moderation.
(While typing, that is. Don't speak with emoticons. No.)

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## #6 2006-09-17 23:56:20

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### Re: Apparently it is OK to say "hey ppl itz da best, k cu ltr"

*sudden picture of people speaking with emoticons*

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## #7 2006-09-18 17:06:00

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### Re: Apparently it is OK to say "hey ppl itz da best, k cu ltr"

MathsIsFun wrote:

*sudden picture of people speaking with emoticons*

Gasp! People would do such a thing?

colon right parenthesis

semi-colon en dash capital P

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## #8 2006-09-18 22:06:30

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### Re: Apparently it is OK to say "hey ppl itz da best, k cu ltr"

Shift plus six underscore shift plus six

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It wanted to be normal.

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## #9 2006-09-19 05:02:34

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### Re: Apparently it is OK to say "hey ppl itz da best, k cu ltr"

Shift plus nine shift plus 7 underscore shift plus ampersand shift plus zero inverted comma

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## #10 2006-10-09 05:46:31

cray
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### Re: Apparently it is OK to say "hey ppl itz da best, k cu ltr"

just wait till leetspeak takes over
Incase you didnt know - leetspeak was started by the hacker group "Cult of The Dead Cow"
and came from the word elite.  It is gaining widespread use in forums and is seen as a very youthful persuit.
Cult of The Dead Cow are (without much doubt) very genius computer programmers (Bill Clinton, at one time travelled always with one of the members of C0DC as a computer security advisor).

(from wikipedia)In February 2000, the cDc was the subject of an 11-minute documentary short entitled "Disinformation." Also in February 2000, cDc member Mudge briefed President Bill Clinton on internet security

elite is the name of the computer port they used on their program "Back orifice"  31337 (eleet, in leetspeak)  BO was a method of infiltrating computers. heres a typical conversation in leetspeak
74!5 !5 133+ 4/\/) !75 (001  (this is leet and its cool)   there are many variants but essentially thats it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

edited out a reference to wikipedia - cult of dead cow
some pseudonyms they used to interact on the internet are not suitable
for polite conversation

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## #11 2006-10-09 06:02:09

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### Re: Apparently it is OK to say "hey ppl itz da best, k cu ltr"

Interesting stuff. Amazing how Wikipedia has information on stuff like that.

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## #12 2006-10-09 06:05:50

Patrick
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### Re: Apparently it is OK to say "hey ppl itz da best, k cu ltr"

cray wrote:

...heres a typical conversation in leetspeak
74!5 !5 133+ 4/\/) !75 (001  (this is leet and its cool)   there are many variants but essentially thats it...

You say it yourself, there are many variants. Won't you agree, however, that leet is mostly written 1337 even though + is also used as a t sometimes?

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## #13 2006-10-09 13:04:33

cray
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### Re: Apparently it is OK to say "hey ppl itz da best, k cu ltr"

Absolutely, these days its just a bit of fun but when the hacker organisations such as Cult of The Dead Cow, L0pht Heavy Industries, etc were on the FBI wanted list, it was a method of disguising the intention of the writer - CDC (the junior members) greet each other in forums with these words
L0  teh c0w
Hail  teh cow
B0w t0 teh C0w

note the zero in place of o   and the misspelt "the"   this is all part of the variants
in the same way that the word "owned" is now often written  "Pwned"
especially by gamers.
I (just for my own personal interests) made a study of Cult of Dead Cow and though they are now by-and-large respectable programmers earning great amounts of money from very hi-tech security ventures, they were once very anti-establishment hackers with a political edge so needed this kind of 31337 language.
I am not too sure about this bit, but I think the initial users of leetspeak were the CDC members known as Oxblood Ruffin, and Lord Digital.

Interestingly I once found a English to Leetspeak converter - I will try and find it again and post the url
A|-| |-|3r3 i7 i5 |\|0w 7|-|3 ur1 i5 |-|3r3

http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/l/leetspea.htm

microsoft also post this advice for parents and teachers
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/leetspeak.mspx

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