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**Monox D. I-Fly****Member**- From: Indonesia
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What is 4 times hotter than -4 degrees Celcius?

A. -16 degrees Celcius

B. -1 degrees Celcius

C. 12 degrees Celcius

D. 16 degrees Celcius

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**thickhead****Member**- Registered: 2016-04-16
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4 times hotter is meaningless.

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**Monox D. I-Fly****Member**- From: Indonesia
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What?

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Can you please tell what you get for an answer?

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**bob bundy****Administrator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi Monox D. I-Fly

I understand why you're puzzled. That negative makes the question silly. My son suggests:

(1) Convert to the absolute scale, kelvins, 269

(2) times by 4, 1076

(3) convert back, 803 degrees celcius.

Ho hum. Sometimes questions have no answer.

Bob

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**Monox D. I-Fly****Member**- From: Indonesia
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bob bundy wrote:

hi Monox D. I-Fly

I understand why you're puzzled. That negative makes the question silly. My son suggests:

(1) Convert to the absolute scale, kelvins, 269

(2) times by 4, 1076

(3) convert back, 803 degrees celcius.Ho hum. Sometimes questions have no answer.

Bob

That's *way* too hot than all of the options.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

How about post #4?

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**bob bundy****Administrator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi Monox D. I-Fly

Yes, that's the puzzle. Words like 'four times', and 'greater than' and 'negative four' all have well defined mathematical meanings, but 'hotter' doesn't. Rather it's a colloquial term that doesn't seem to go with the rest of the question. It's like asking 'Which is bigger, a triangle or a cube?' In colloquial terms most people would regard -4 degrees C as cold. You could easily say what is 4 degrees hotter than the given amount; it's the '4x as hot' that messes the question up and I agree with thickhead that it is meaningless as stated.

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**Monox D. I-Fly****Member**- From: Indonesia
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bobbym wrote:

Hi;

How about post #4?

Well, all options are what I got since I was the one who made the question and hoisted by my own petard.

A (-16 degree) was what I got using regular multiplication, but since it's impossible that -16 degree is colder than -4 degree, I made the option D (16 degree).

B (-1 degree) was because I thought -4 degree is four times colder than -1 degree.

C (12 degree) was simply because I added -4 by product of 4 x 4.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

So you do agree with Bob and thickhead?

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**Monox D. I-Fly****Member**- From: Indonesia
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Yes, I give up.

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