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#1 2016-10-14 16:34:06

Gopal
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Natural

The natural numbers from 1 to 9 are divided into 3 groups - not necessarily of equal size. Do you agree that in any pattern of grouping the product of the numbers in at least one group will exceed 71

#2 2016-10-14 19:55:33

bobbym
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Re: Natural

Hi;

I would say that is true.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#3 2016-10-14 20:21:51

Srikantan
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Re: Natural

Logic?

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#4 2016-10-14 20:43:31

bobbym
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Re: Natural

Hi;

Computer. Just providing verification. The OP did not mention he needed a proof.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#5 2016-10-14 20:43:37

thickhead
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Re: Natural


{1}Vasudhaiva Kutumakam.{The whole Universe is a family.}
(2)Yatra naaryasthu poojyanthe Ramanthe tatra Devataha
{Gods rejoice at those places where ladies are respected.}

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#6 2016-10-15 03:11:35

Srikantan
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Re: Natural

Sorry i didnt get logic behind your GM logic

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#7 2016-10-15 15:17:42

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Re: Natural

Last edited by thickhead (2016-10-15 15:19:04)


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#8 2016-10-16 15:45:45

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Re: Natural

If  the  numbers  are  not  limited  to  single  digits , say  from 
1  to  16 , and  divided  into  say  4  groups  other  than  3 .
( with  at  least  1  number  in  each  group )  Then  the  related 
value  will  be  ( 16 ! ) ^ 1/4  .

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#9 2016-10-21 16:25:05

mr.wong
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Re: Natural

To  solve  the  original  problem  is  to  minimize  the  greatest  ( maximum ) 
value  of  the  3  groups . As  ( 9 ! ) ^ 1/3  =  71.327  and  the  values  of 
the  groups  must  be  whole  numbers .  Thus  the  group  with  smallest 
value  will  be  ≥ 71 , which  is  a  prime  no. So  its  value  will  be 
reduced  to  70 = 2 * 5 * 7 .
The  value  of  any  one  of  the  remaining  groups  cannot  be  70  also , to  minimize  the  value  of  the  greater  one  of  the  remaining  2  groups  we  take  the  geometric  mean  again .
Since  √1* 3* 4* 6* 8* 9  =  72 , therefore  the  3  groups  will  be 
70 , 72  and  72  .

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