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#1 2016-05-03 06:15:46

ChrIsPuZa
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A statistics question need help.

Suppose a rv Y has mgf m(t)=e^[k(e^t -1)] /  (1-bt)^a

a)  obtain the mean and variance of Y (differentiate this mgt twice)

b)Suppose m(t) is the mgf of a rv W. Let r(t) be the natural logarithm of m(t),
i.e. r(t) = logm(t). Find r'(t) and r''(t) , and express r'(0) and r''(0)in terms of EW and VarW.

c) Use the result in (b) to find the mean and variance of the rv Y in (a)

d)Find the mean and variance of the rv Y in (a) using a method which does not involve any differentiation.


sad   really difficult for me

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#2 2016-05-03 10:57:21

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Re: A statistics question need help.

You can get the variance from the above.


b) There are missing characters.


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#3 2016-05-04 02:28:20

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Re: A statistics question need help.

Hi bobbym:

I'm also confused about (b) ,but I don't think there are missing characters. shall we consider about this :

r(t) = logm(t) ,  r'(t)=m'(t)/m(t)  r''(t)=[m''(t) m(t)+(m'(t))^2]  / (m(t))^2

and then  we find r'(0)=m'(0) / m(0) =EW/m(0) .does this idea correct ?  but how to use the EW and VarW to eliminate m(0)?  thank you for your reply

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#4 2016-05-04 04:38:29

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Re: A statistics question need help.

but I don't think there are missing characters

This is the way your post looks on my browser:

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What the heck are those boxes for?


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#5 2016-05-04 04:54:23

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Re: A statistics question need help.

Hi:
sorry about that ,I don't know why there are some box appeared in your browser.

you can ignore these box ,the question is find the first and second derivative of r(t) and express the first and second derivative of r(0) in terms of E(W) and  Var(W)

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#6 2016-05-04 05:24:25

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Re: A statistics question need help.

r(t) = logm(t) ,  r'(t)=m'(t)/m(t)  r''(t)=[m''(t) m(t)+(m'(t))^2]  / (m(t))^2

I am getting

for the second derivative of r(t)


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#7 2016-05-04 05:35:12

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Re: A statistics question need help.

you are right, i make a mistake here .  I have no idea about the second part question

'express the first and second derivative of r(0) in terms of E(W) and  Var(W)'

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#8 2016-05-04 09:09:39

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Re: A statistics question need help.

I am not getting that either, I am sorry.


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#9 2016-05-04 16:19:19

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Re: A statistics question need help.

thanks anyway

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#10 2016-05-04 16:33:23

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Re: A statistics question need help.

Welcome to the forum. You might try the SE for the answer.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#11 2016-05-04 16:47:11

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Re: A statistics question need help.

Hi bobbym:

do you have  any idea about (d)? which method will not  involve any differentiation to find mean and variance?

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#12 2016-05-04 16:57:55

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Re: A statistics question need help.

I have been looking at that. Since the mean and variance are defined in terms of the derivatives of the MGF I do not know offhand how to get them without using differentiation.


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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