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#1 2006-06-27 06:39:55

coolcat23
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I need help!!!

I need help on the following question:
place numbers1-9 on the lines so that all the equations are accurate

__ divided by  _ = _ - _ = _ + _ = _ x _

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#2 2006-06-27 07:11:16

luca
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Re: I need help!!!

just try it out-

__ divided by  _ = _ - _ = _ + _ = _ x _

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9

its impossible, ill proove it by exhaustion

lets just stick to the division and multiplication

the division will always be <= 9, (max / min = 9) and has to be an integer to satisfy the rest of the equalities

(im changing order to division = multiplication = addition = subtraction)

9/1 = fail (can only do 3x3, but cant do that, using same number)
8/1 = 4x2 = 2+6 = fail (cannot use 9-1, 1 is used)
8/1 = 4x2 = 3+5 = fail (cannot use 9-1, 1 is used)
7/1 = fail (can only do 7x1, both are taken)
6/1 = 3x2 = fail (cannot get an addition with other numbers)
5/1 = fail (can only do 5x1, both are taken)
4/1 = fail (can only do 4x1, both taken, or 2x2, but thats same number)
3/1 = fail (can only do 3x1, both are taken)
2/1 = fail (can only do 2x1, both are taken)

9/3 = fail (can only get 3 using 3)
8/4 = 2x1 = fail (cannot get 2 = 1+1, same number, and 1 is already taken anyways)
8/2 = 4x1 = fail (cannot do 1+3, 1 is taken, 2+2 is using same number 3 times)
6/3 = 2x1 = fail (cannot get 2 = 1+1, same number, and 1 is already taken anyways)
6/2 = 3x1 = fail (can only get 3, using 3)
4/2 = fail (can only get 2 using 2)

#3 2006-06-27 07:30:48

Ricky
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Re: I need help!!!

There aren't any solutions if you include 0, either.

"In the real world, this would be a problem.  But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist.  So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

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#4 2006-06-27 07:36:23

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Re: I need help!!!

The first solution that exists for starting at 1 is when the highest number is 13:

10 / 1 = 13 - 3 = 4 + 6 = 2 * 5

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#5 2006-06-27 07:43:56

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Re: I need help!!!

Weirdly enough, that's the same for starting at 0.

"In the real world, this would be a problem.  But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist.  So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

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#6 2006-06-27 07:52:34

coolcat23
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Re: I need help!!!

I've got it! I think.After a couple of hours trying different things i got this:.

56 divided by 8 = 9 - 2 =3 + 4 =1 x7

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#7 2006-06-27 08:08:21

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Oh, is that what the double underscore was for?  Well that changes everything.

"In the real world, this would be a problem.  But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist.  So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

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#8 2006-06-27 08:13:02

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Re: I need help!!!

And that is a unique solution.  i.e. there aren't any others.

"In the real world, this would be a problem.  But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist.  So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

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#9 2006-06-27 08:21:40

luca-deltodesco
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Re: I need help!!!

Ricky wrote:

Oh, is that what the double underscore was for?  Well that changes everything.

i was wondering why there was 9 numbers, but 8 places for them

oh, and if you didnt notice, 'luca' is me, when i post, and then realise im not logged in and cant be math to

edit no2

what the? a r * e d, is converted to math?!

Last edited by MathsIsFun (2006-06-27 09:42:14)

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#10 2006-06-27 09:41:44

MathsIsFun
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Re: I need help!!!

Yeah, coz itz a bit rooood.

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#11 2006-06-27 11:48:10

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