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## #76 2014-11-03 22:22:15

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

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## #77 2014-11-03 22:23:32

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

Suppose R is even. Now, N is expressible as a sum of R primes if it is expressible as a sum of R/2 even numbers each of which is greater than 2 To do this, we check if (N-2*R) is even and greater than 2.

How does it work if N = 10 and R = 5?

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## #78 2014-11-03 22:25:31

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

Agnishom wrote:

If R is odd, we check if there is a suitable prime p such that N-p is expressible as a sum of R-1 primes.

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## #79 2014-11-03 22:27:21

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

Okay, I got it maybe. Why?

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## #80 2014-11-03 22:31:22

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

What why?

I need to make a correction.

Suppose R is even. Now, N is expressible as a sum of R primes if it is expressible as a sum of R/2 even numbers each of which is greater than 2 To do this, we check if (N-2*R) is even and greater than 2.

If R is odd, we check if there is a suitable prime p such that N-p is expressible as a sum of R-1 primes.

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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## #81 2014-11-03 22:36:16

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

What are you trying to do?

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## #82 2014-11-03 22:38:28

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

Agnishom wrote:

Expressible[748776611396, 68906072498] does not work. It goes core dump.

That

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## #83 2014-11-03 22:42:20

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

You are trying to see if that is possible without actually computing them?

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## #84 2014-11-03 22:52:32

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

Yes.

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## #85 2014-11-03 22:55:08

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

Sorry, post 80 still has flaws

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## #86 2014-11-03 23:02:19

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

What flaws?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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## #87 2014-11-03 23:05:38

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

9 can be expressed as the sum of 4 primes but it thinks not.

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## #88 2014-11-03 23:07:32

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

Any odd number n can be expressed as the sum of 1 + (n-3)/2 primes.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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## #89 2014-11-03 23:09:32

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

How can you tell?

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## #90 2014-11-03 23:13:58

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

Take 15 for instance, if we subtract 3 we get 12 which of course can be broken down into 6 twos. So for any odd n take away 3 and divide n - 3 by 2. Written in math, 1 + (n-3)/2 primes.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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## #91 2014-11-03 23:15:27

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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## #92 2014-11-03 23:17:11

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

That does not produce the shortest sum.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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## #93 2014-11-03 23:21:05

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

The shortest sum?

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## #94 2014-11-03 23:22:10

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

Yes, 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 3 = 15 is only 1 possible representation.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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## #95 2014-11-03 23:23:00

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

How does it matter?

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## #96 2014-11-03 23:25:45

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

It does not but I do not see a way to answer whether 123456789 is the sum of 65 primes.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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## #97 2014-11-03 23:46:40

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

Does Goldbach help?

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## #98 2014-11-03 23:48:29

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

There has been some proofs for R >= 3.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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## #99 2014-11-04 02:01:12

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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## #100 2014-11-04 05:12:45

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### Re: Sum of R primes?

I think I am greatly overextended as it is.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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