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#1 2014-08-22 22:51:15

thepipersson1980
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Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

Ok, so I know this more electronic than maths but I'm guessing you guys might have a logical way of thinking about it???

So my tutor has asked me to calculate impedance Z of a series circuit and all the info I had was,

A capacitor with the value of 300 uF
A inductor with a 800 mH

From there I have calculated the resonant frequency which is 10.3Hz AND the capacitive reactance which is 51.50 Ohms

So , what I have now is this;

R = Unknown
L = 800 mH
C = 300 uF
F = 10.3 Hz
Xc = 51.50
Xl = Unknown
W = 2pieF

Is it possible to calculate Impedance Z if I do not know the value of the resistor? and if so how???

Z= sqrt R^2 + (Xl - Xc)^2

I know this wont be everyone's cup of tea but I'm just praying that one of you guys can help??

Many thanks in advance, even if it was just taking the time to look smile  and on another note I apologize for my lack of understanding of maths, this course I have nearly done bar this question, has encouraged me to enroll at collage to brush up.... it has been 20 years though 
Tom

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#2 2014-08-22 23:39:06

bobbym
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Re: Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

Hi;

Without knowing Xc and R we can not get a number for Z.


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#3 2014-08-23 00:05:38

thepipersson1980
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Re: Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

Sorry the value of Xc I have put down, I think you mean Xl which is easy to work out as it is just Xl = WL,

I personally don't think this can be done but I think I need to find someone who is as clever as you guys are with maths, but also understands electronics it might be a big ask but is worth an ask

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#4 2014-08-23 00:14:32

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Re: Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

Yes, I meant Xl. You are saying it is W x L?


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#5 2014-08-23 01:29:41

thepipersson1980
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Re: Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

yes W*L = Xl

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#6 2014-08-23 01:37:24

bobbym
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Re: Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

The equation looks like this?


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#7 2014-08-23 05:19:35

thepipersson1980
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Re: Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

Yes that is correct! sorry for the random replies I'm at work at the moment

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#8 2014-08-23 12:51:53

bobbym
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Re: Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

Hi;

To get the impedance we still need to know one more thing, what is R?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#9 2014-08-23 12:58:21

ShivamS
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Re: Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

He doesn't know. That's the problem.

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#10 2014-08-23 13:06:30

bobbym
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Re: Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

Hi;

So unless he can work out R from what he already knows in post #1 that is as far as we can go.

Is there a formula that links R with any of those known values?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#11 2014-08-24 02:04:21

thepipersson1980
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Re: Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

Not without a value for R or I think it could be possible if you had a voltage but as I only have a frequency, I don't think it would be possible... That said this is all new to me so it could be, but I doubt it

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#12 2014-08-24 04:48:07

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Re: Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

Then at least you have an answer. It can not be done.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#13 2014-08-25 03:18:11

thepipersson1980
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Re: Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

Yes, many thanks for your help/second opinion... much appreciated

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#14 2014-08-25 03:19:26

bobbym
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Re: Is it even possible to work out the value of R??

Hi thepipersson1980;

Welcome to the forum.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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