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## #1 2014-07-29 17:09:31

mrpace
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### Does this sequence converge or diverge?

n+1
(-1 )^(n-1) * 2n+1

what happens as n goes to infinity?

My thoughts are that it oscillates between near 0.5 and -0.5 but never hits either. does this mean it diverges?

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## #2 2014-07-29 20:23:57

bob bundy
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### Re: Does this sequence converge or diverge?

Did you mean

When I first learnt about convergence, the implication was that if it didn't converge then it diverged.  But, more recently, I have met a text that listed four possibilities:

converge, diverge, oscillate and periodic.

Putting a name to it, is not as important as describing what the sequence is doing.

Bob

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## #3 2014-07-30 00:34:03

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### Re: Does this sequence converge or diverge?

What is the difference between oscillating and periodic?

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## #4 2014-07-30 01:49:32

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### Re: Does this sequence converge or diverge?

oscillating: eg. 1, -1, 1, -1 ,1, -1, .............

periodic: eg.  1,2,3,5,1,2,3,5,1,2,3,5, ..........

I suppose you could argue that oscillating sequences are a special case of periodic.

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## #5 2014-07-30 03:03:50

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### Re: Does this sequence converge or diverge?

sin(n) would be oscillating, but not periodic.

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## #6 2014-07-30 06:22:18

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### Re: Does this sequence converge or diverge?

bob bundy wrote:

oscillating: eg. 1, -1, 1, -1 ,1, -1, .............

periodic: eg.  1,2,3,5,1,2,3,5,1,2,3,5, ..........

I suppose you could argue that oscillating sequences are a special case of periodic.

Bob

I thought it was the other way around.

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## #7 2014-07-30 10:00:45

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### Re: Does this sequence converge or diverge?

That sounds right. The only exception (that I can think of) is any constant sequence.

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