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#1 2014-06-01 02:15:33

Agnishom
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Inequality?

If a,b,c > 0
and abc=1

Prove that a^2 + b^2 + c^2 ≥ a+b+c


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#2 2014-06-01 02:33:34

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Re: Inequality?

Hi;

We have to assume that a ≠ b ≠ c else equality occurs at a=b=c=1?


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#3 2014-06-01 02:47:01

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Re: Inequality?

Equality is allowed. See the geq sign in post 1. Please prove it now.


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#4 2014-06-01 03:01:44

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Re: Inequality?

That is one that I have and requires Cauchy Schwarz.


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#5 2014-06-01 03:06:59

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Re: Inequality?

The guy who will see it s one year older than me. He might know it. Please post it.


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#6 2014-06-01 03:11:19

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Re: Inequality?

Let x = a, y = b, z = c:

Use CauchySchwarz to get:

By AM-GM and xyz=1 we have

So

using 1)

and so

For any real number t >= 1 we have t^2 >= t and  t >= √t

so using 1)

we are done.


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#7 2014-06-01 03:12:33

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Re: Inequality?

I doubt he will know it, unless he has done some serious self-study.

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#8 2014-06-01 15:55:38

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Re: Inequality?

He knew that inequality but I still do not. Can you tell me?


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#9 2014-06-01 15:57:57

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Re: Inequality?

Tell you what?


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#10 2014-06-01 16:07:10

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Re: Inequality?

Cauchy Schwarz


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#11 2014-06-01 16:28:23

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Re: Inequality?

I have to go offline a bit. Will explain it when I get back.


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#12 2014-06-01 17:23:58

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Re: Inequality?

Okay


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#13 2014-06-01 18:26:34

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Re: Inequality?

CS says

Now he just used b1=b2=b3 to get


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#14 2014-06-03 10:28:27

Nehushtan
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Re: Inequality?

Agnishom wrote:

If a,b,c > 0
and abc=1

Prove that a^2 + b^2 + c^2 ≥ a+b+c


Jensen’s inequality states that if
is a convex function then



The function
is convex; therefore



But
by AM–GM.

Hence


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