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**PatternMan****Member**- Registered: 2014-03-08
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If so how did you get so good? I checked some out and I'm lost with where to start lol. I'll leave them out for a long time. I'm going to go through the school curriculum, then some harder books and AMC questions, then eventually try them.

"School conditions you to reject your own judgement and experiences. The facts are in the textbook. Memorize and follow the rules. What they don't tell you is the people that discovered the facts and wrote the textbooks are people like you and me."

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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Assuming you mean the International Mathematics Olympiad, obviously you should start of by learning the material for it, which is algebra II, combinatorics, number theory and precalculus (elementary functions). You can use calculus on them, but they are designed to be able to be solved without using calculus. After that, i suggest you do as many challenging problems as you can find. That's basically what I did, and now I am in a position to solve most IMO problems with ease. Just remember that knowing the prerequisite material is not enough - you need to have problem solving skills, creativity and ingenuity - all of which comes by solving difficult problems.

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What is Algebra II?

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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We make up lots of terms here in North America. It's http://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/index-2.html plus quite a bit more. Basically grade 9 and 10 CBSE (and some parts of 11 and 12). Most of 11 and 12 in CBSE is precalculus.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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A couple of people here can.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**PatternMan****Member**- Registered: 2014-03-08
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ShivamS wrote:

Assuming you mean the International Mathematics Olympiad, obviously you should start of by learning the material for it, which is algebra II, combinatorics, number theory and precalculus (elementary functions). You can use calculus on them, but they are designed to be able to be solved without using calculus. After that, i suggest you do as many challenging problems as you can find. That's basically what I did, and now I am in a position to solve most IMO problems with ease. Just remember that knowing the prerequisite material is not enough - you need to have problem solving skills, creativity and ingenuity - all of which comes by solving difficult problems.

That sounds impressive that you can do most of them with ease. Did you ever do them before going to college/university?

"School conditions you to reject your own judgement and experiences. The facts are in the textbook. Memorize and follow the rules. What they don't tell you is the people that discovered the facts and wrote the textbooks are people like you and me."

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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Just remember, you can work very hard and become one of the kids who wins all the trophies, bit sooner or later the trophies will be in the attic. However, the problem-solving skills, the love of mathematics, and the friendships forged with peers with similar interests will remain and enable you to apply the skills you have developed through mathematics to a variety of fields in college and then later in the professional world.

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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Algebra II is solving equations, complex numbers, quadratics, conics, polynomial division, polynomial roots, factoring multibariable polynomials, induction/identities, sequences and series, inequalities, radicals, special functions, functional equations, exponents, logarithms and more. Precalculus is advanced functions, different functions (quadratics, exponential, logarithmic, trigonometric etc), trigonometry, vectors, matrices. Of course, both lists are non-exhaustive and cover significantly more then what I mentioned.

Patternman, I did so quite a few of them before going to university.

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The best site to visit if youre interested in IMO, IMHO, is this one: http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/

Their forum: http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Forum/index.php?

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