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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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A pack of forty cards numbered 1-10 and four suits are well shuffled and placed face up on the floor.

After placing the cards sequentially, the positions are numbered like this

[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

A card numbered 1 must not occupy a position numbered 1, and same restriction for cards 2-7. Cards 8-10 are free to be placed anywhere.

What's the probability of such an arrangement?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Hi gAr

Shouldn't the positions be numbered 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,0,1,2, ?

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Mmm, yes. I wanted to tell 1+ (pos# mod 7), I overlooked it.

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gAr wrote:

Mmm, yes. I wanted to tell 1+ (pos# mod 7), I overlooked it.

Ah, okay then. I wasn't sure which definition to hold true. Thanks for the clarification.

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Hi bobbym,

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Ah, okay then. I wasn't sure which definition to hold true. Thanks for the clarification.

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Hi bobbym,

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Hi gAr;

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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Why don't you use a simulation first? I am getting

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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Close, but still wrong... I think my algorithm is correct, but I probably made a mistake in my code.

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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Great! Now time to find some algebraic method.

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Hi ShivamS,

Hi bobbym,

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Hi bobbym,

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