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## #1 2014-04-03 13:48:22

Agnishom
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### Sage

``Solve[Sqrt[x-1]-Sqrt[x+1] +1==0,x]``

The above is Mathematica code. How do I solve that equation with Sage?

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## #2 2014-04-03 13:51:31

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### Re: Sage

solve(sqrt(x-1)-sqrt(x+1) +1==0,x)
Sorry, this doesn't work. Haven't used Sage in a long time after switching to Mathematica. I don't know why it doesn't work though...

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## #3 2014-04-03 13:59:33

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### Re: Sage

I've tried that. I can't solve this equation with Maxima either.

Only gAr can tell

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## #4 2014-04-03 19:12:55

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### Re: Sage

Hi,

Its syntax is

``solve([sqrt(x-1)-sqrt(x+1)==-1],x)``

But it doesn't solve it though, Sage and maxima seems to have a problem when square roots are involved like that.
That has frustrated me a few times.
So we need to either manually eliminate the roots or write a program to eliminate roots, and then give that equation to solve.
Introduces some extra solutions, so we need to weed out the extras later.

For now, use this input instead:

``solve([(8*sqrt(x + 1)*sqrt(x - 1)*x)^2==(8*x^2 - 5)^2],x)``

[x == (-5/4), x == (5/4)]
So, for the original equation, x=5/4

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## #5 2014-04-03 19:19:47

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### Re: Sage

How did you get this equation?

``[(8*sqrt(x + 1)*sqrt(x - 1)*x)^2==(8*x^2 - 5)^2]``

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## #6 2014-04-03 19:30:50

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Ah, I was using the code from here
Did not eliminate sqrt completely, so needs to be modified.

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## #7 2014-04-03 19:34:38

gAr
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### Re: Sage

Wait, an easier workaround!

``solve([y==sqrt(x-1),y==sqrt(x+1)-1],x,y)``

[[x == (5/4), y == (1/2)]]
which is just perfect!

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## #8 2014-04-03 19:56:03

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### Re: Sage

Why does the simplest idea not work but the complicated ones do?

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## #9 2014-04-03 20:06:14

gAr
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### Re: Sage

Why does the simplest idea not work but the complicated ones do?

Why, wan't #7 simple?

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## #10 2014-04-03 20:15:27

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Yes, It was.

I am only curious

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