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## #1 2014-02-27 01:18:31

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 92,908

### Solving a baffler.

http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic … 17470&p=49

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This one gave me great joy to solve because although there are several people here who can and did solve it, no one could where it was posed?! (Update: Someone else has submitted a solution there too. Wunderbar!) A triumph for experimental math!

1) Let us start with an accurate drawing, so we use geogebra and create two points (0,0) and (10,0). They will be marked as A and B.

2) Use the regular polygon tool and select A and then B and enter 4 as the number of vertices and a square with sides 10 is created.

3) Use the midpoint tool and click on all 4 sides of the square and points E,F,G and H are created.

4) Use the circle with 3 points tool and click on E,F and G and the inscribed circle is created.

5) Use the circle with radius tool and click on B and enter 10 and the arc is created.

6) We can see the two red regions are same ( should be easy enough to prove. What we need is the intersection of the big circle and the little one marked on the drawing. Of course geogebra can get it easily but we will use M for the job.

7) Enter

Solve[{(x - 5)^2 + (y - 5)^2 == 25, (x - 10)^2 + y^2 == 100}, {x, y}]//First

You will get:

that is the intersection of the big and the little one.

8) Now we just need to get that area on the left by integration.

Integrate[5 - Sqrt[10 x - x^2], {x, 0, 5/4 (3 - Sqrt[7])}] -
Integrate[Sqrt[20 x - x^2], {x, 0, 5/4 (3 - Sqrt[7])}]

yields

We are done!

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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## #2 2014-02-28 04:16:35

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 92,908

### Re: Solving a baffler.

Hi;

Using phrontister's coloring and layering techniques, I could make this drawing.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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## #3 2014-02-28 04:37:45

Agnishom
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From: Riemann Sphere
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### Re: Solving a baffler.

Why is this experimental?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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## #4 2014-02-28 04:45:21

bobbym
From: Bumpkinland
Registered: 2009-04-12
Posts: 92,908

### Re: Solving a baffler.

http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=19346

But I daresay when you give a better answer then you did in the best quote thread you will know.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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