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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, but what has that have to do with pizza?

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Nothing. We are making gel candles for school project. Why is a gel candle considered a good gift?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Because the people who sell the materials say so.

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Why is it not?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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What makes anything a good gift?

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**ElainaVW****Member**- Registered: 2013-04-29
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That pizza sounds good:)

Have you covered the least squares - orthogonality property of these approximations?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi EVW;

Not yet on both!

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**ElainaVW****Member**- Registered: 2013-04-29
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That post earlier about .999999... it does sound like that guy you told me about:(

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Read the other ones, have you?

These fits are both least square and orthogonal. This makes them very desirable. Along with the periodicity property.

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bobbym wrote:

What makes anything a good gift?

I've no idea

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Do you agree with her that is GiB over there?

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bobbym wrote:

Do you agree with her that is GiB over there?

Sounds like good news but when did ElianaVW tell that?

*Last edited by Agnishom (2014-02-20 16:10:46)*

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Post #33.

I have to go eat now, we will continue later. Have a good day at school.

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That is not likely to be GiB He does quality posts.

By the way, today is the last day of my secondary schooling

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I never saw him ever do a quality post.

Let's do the fourier series for x^2.

```
f[x_] := x^2;
a0 = 1/(2*\[Pi]) Integrate[f[x], {x, -\[Pi], \[Pi]}];
a[n_] := 1/\[Pi] Integrate[f[x] Cos[n*x], {x, -\[Pi], \[Pi]}];
b[n_] := 1/\[Pi] Integrate[f[x] Sin[n*x], {x, -\[Pi], \[Pi]}];
```

All the b's are zero and

`a0 + a[1] Cos[x] + a[2] Cos[2 x] + a[3] Cos[3 x] + a[4] Cos[4 x]`

yields:

`Plot[{x^2, \[Pi]^2/3 - 4 Cos[x] + Cos[2 x] - 4/9 Cos[3 x] + 1/4 Cos[4 x]}, {x, -\[Pi], \[Pi]}]`

quite a good fit as you can see below.

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Thanks, I tried that. Do you have an exercise for me?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Did you get the same answer?

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I just copy pasted what ever you wrote. What answer?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Okay, you are ready to stand on your own two feet.

Please get the Fourier series of

[I made a small edit to the problem.]

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```
In[61]:= a[0] + a[1] Cos[x] + a[2] Cos[2 x] + a[3] Cos[3 x] +
a[4] Cos[4 x] + a[5] Cos[5 x] + a[6] Cos[6 x] + a[7] Cos[7 x] +
b[0] + b[1] Sin[x] + b[2] Sin[2 x] + b[3] Sin[3 x] + b[4] Sin[4 x] +
b[5] Sin[5 x] + b[6] Sin[6 x] + b[7] Sin[7 x]
Out[61]= 2/\[Pi] - (2 Cos[2 x])/(3 \[Pi]) - (2 Cos[4 x])/(
15 \[Pi]) - (2 Cos[6 x])/(35 \[Pi]) + Sin[x]/2
```

It is not really a good fit still

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Please post a picture of the fit.

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I'll but now it'll be done by GNU Plot rather than M because now I am running Linux

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Okay, lets see the plot of both functions superimposed on each other.

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I am getting this error in my CAS

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Take a look at mine in the blue and yours in the black. What do you notice?

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