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Re: need help in simple computation for my thory
I do not know but how would you? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #27 20140210 05:02:54
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryI would not use his method. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #28 20140210 05:07:49
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryI said that you need all primes X/2 to sieve X. Isnt this obivious? Last edited by martnSpruce (20140210 05:09:24) #29 20140210 05:09:14
Re: need help in simple computation for my thorySo what can we say about a theory that only goes up to 200000? My electric bill was higher than that. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #30 20140210 05:10:26
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryif you will prove its wrong for higher numbers  its wrong. Thats how we meet  I need help Last edited by martnSpruce (20140210 05:11:11) #31 20140210 05:13:19
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryBut it is not wrong. It is the Sieve of Eratosthenes. It is already well known and not that useful because we live in a finite world. There are much better methods for generating primes. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #32 20140210 05:15:30
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryThats why I thought we missunderstood each other. Im not here to generate numbers but to check wave theory that will give a proof that primes are not in random positions. #33 20140210 05:20:04
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryYour wave theory is saying nothing about the primes themselves. It is saying the multiples of the primes are predictable. Do we not already know that?
How can you prove that? It is one of the great unsolved problems facing mathematics. People since Eratosthenes have been aware of your sieve method. Why draw big conclusions from it? Why not believe that it just very slowly generates primes? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #34 20140210 05:21:02
Re: need help in simple computation for my thory
You're posing threats to the society! 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #35 20140210 05:22:27
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryNew power company. Reppies own it. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #36 20140210 05:26:05
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryWell because primes are irrelevant for me. I need to make sure that 'noise' they are generating together is not random. Last edited by martnSpruce (20140210 05:27:46) #37 20140210 05:29:53
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryOkay, what exactly are you trying to prove? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #38 20140210 05:34:57
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryaccording to the pdf  that every next free spot is a prime number, and this is exactly next prime. That will prove me that primes are not random, they have wave behavior and prime numbers 'noise' in given range can be always decoded and predicted endlesly. Last edited by martnSpruce (20140210 05:35:48) #39 20140210 05:41:49
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryIt proves it to you but it does not prove it to me. Yes, the next spot is always a prime but if you look you will see the spacing between them is quite unpredictable. Sometimes 2, sometimes a lot more. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #40 20140210 05:54:13
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryIf you draw waves nothing looks random. If result is always true there is nothing to prove I belive. #41 20140210 05:55:16
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryUse solar panels 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #42 20140210 05:57:44
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryIt is easy to make encryptions that would be impossible to decode. I am afraid you can not predict the next prime without doing all the sieving up to some large number. The patterns are difficult if not impossible without calculating the others. You can not draw a big conclusion off of a small sample of 200000. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #43 20140210 06:01:25
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryprediction for noise is not the prediction for next prime. #44 20140210 06:05:46
Re: need help in simple computation for my thory
Why were you scaring me the other day, then? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #45 20140210 06:05:51
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryThe problem to getting bigger numbers is not just a problem of who has the biggest machine. The sieve is notoriously slow and uses a lot of memory. Perhaps numbers as large as 300 000 000 could be done with a fast compiler and lots of RAM. But even if you achieve this you still will not be able to say anything about numbers larger than that. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #46 20140210 06:19:33
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryHow much schoud be primes sequence made by using this method to make people belive that this "could be" a way how primes are placed on integrals array? #47 20140210 06:26:27
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryNo number! When you prove things you have to prove for all numbers. Infinity is way too big for any computer. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #48 20140210 07:22:13
Re: need help in simple computation for my thorywell every time sive works it's a proof that primes are not unpredictable, and waves are showing rules for that. but its ok, im rather not here to talk endlesly but to find someone who could help me somehow. #49 20140210 11:48:14
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryYou have to accept help to be helped.
Just because you can determine whether a number is prime or not does not imply that there is some obvious pattern in the primes. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #50 20140211 04:47:09
Re: need help in simple computation for my thoryThanks guys for the feedback. Actually according to wave theory I think Im able to find every next prime and make function for that. Some other guy helped me figured out what Im looking for. But I need some time because I have lot of other things to do, at least few months. 