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## #276 2014-01-05 23:14:36

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### Re: Probability problem.

N numbers are randomly chosen from U(0,1). What's the value of

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## #277 2014-01-06 02:32:01

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr;

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #278 2014-01-06 03:10:17

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi bobbym,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #279 2014-01-06 03:47:54

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr;

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #280 2014-01-06 03:52:23

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi bobbym,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #281 2014-01-06 05:11:45

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr;

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #282 2014-01-06 05:24:53

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi bobbym,

Logging out, see you later..

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"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #283 2014-01-06 08:14:35

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr;

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #284 2014-01-06 14:03:41

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi bobbym,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #285 2014-01-06 14:13:50

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr;

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #286 2014-01-06 15:38:16

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi bobbym,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #287 2014-01-06 16:25:21

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi;

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #288 2014-01-06 17:17:03

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #289 2014-01-06 22:43:14

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr;

Until you mentioned it in the post #276, I did not even think about looking for a formula.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #290 2014-01-06 22:45:23

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi,

Okay, now we know!

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #291 2014-01-06 22:54:04

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### Re: Probability problem.

Are we done with this topic?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #292 2014-01-06 23:00:20

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### Re: Probability problem.

I think so, completed most of the things I had in mind.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #293 2014-01-06 23:04:51

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### Re: Probability problem.

I had never done any problems of this type before and did not have any idea of how to solve one, even with a CAS. I have a little idea of how to do them now so I say thanks!

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #294 2014-01-06 23:11:53

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Me neither, thanks to wikipedia and mathworld for the formulas.

But was surprised that I could find no numerical examples anywhere. What will anyone do with the formula if the usage documentation is not there?!

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #295 2014-01-06 23:18:36

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### Re: Probability problem.

I could not find any book even that would give a decent explanation or example.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #296 2014-01-13 02:49:55

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### Re: Probability problem.

New problem:

A certain pattern with a probability of occurrence 'p' has to occur 'k' consecutive times. What is the average number of trials required?

E.g. When 2 dice are thrown, the average number of throws required to get '66' three successive times.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #297 2014-01-13 09:05:09

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr;

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #298 2014-01-13 14:49:24

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi bobbym,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #299 2014-01-13 15:58:16

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr;

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

## #300 2014-01-14 00:35:52

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### Re: Probability problem.

Hi bobbym,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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