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Why we need numbers ?This is my fervent need to know. Why we use numbers ? #2 20131114 21:15:53
Re: Why we need numbers ?I feel that we use numbers to see the practical side of things that is opposite of the emotional side. friendship is tan 90°. #3 20131114 23:05:29
Re: Why we need numbers ?
If the mighty pythagoras was with us today he would say so. But that is fortunately not true.
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #4 20131115 02:49:35
Re: Why we need numbers ?
Well for one thing to count our money. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #5 20131115 03:10:39
Re: Why we need numbers ?But if you could not count your money there would be no depression at all!! 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #6 20131115 03:26:33
Re: Why we need numbers ?Yes, there would be no need for bankers. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #7 20131115 03:30:54
Re: Why we need numbers ?After all, we do not need numbers. Maths is evil. Follow line one from my signature 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #8 20131115 03:32:40
Re: Why we need numbers ?I have heard similar arguments to that from lots of people. They may be correct, why do you think so? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #9 20131115 03:48:36
Re: Why we need numbers ?Why do I think what? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #10 20131115 03:50:35
Re: Why we need numbers ?Hmmm, sounds like an anonimnystefy response.
Why? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #11 20131115 04:04:15
Re: Why we need numbers ?Yes, I've cloned a lot of bobbym and anonimnystefy responses. 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #12 20131115 04:06:23
Re: Why we need numbers ?So, then we need numbers to count our money, to survey our land so in case someone invades us we can go to war with them. We need numbers to tell how old we are getting... In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #13 20131115 04:21:18
Re: Why we need numbers ?I'm trying to tell that Maths is not evil, Maths is fun. 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #14 20131115 04:28:16
Re: Why we need numbers ?But your signature says that Math is like a toothache?! I tend to agree with that but now you are saying something else. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #15 20131115 04:30:52
Re: Why we need numbers ?
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #16 20131115 04:34:09
Re: Why we need numbers ?And when we can not measure it? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #17 20131115 06:25:37
Re: Why we need numbers ?
That is true, but it is very hard to establish a stable system with no money. Such a system depends on either trading goods, which did happen and eventually turned into what it is today, or on a system of free goods which might be just an inch from a total disaster. There is a reason why such systems of goods value exists only in literature. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #18 20131115 12:01:02
Re: Why we need numbers ?You do not need a stable system. Animals in the jungle do not have any stable system 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #19 20131115 12:23:08
Re: Why we need numbers ?By a stable system I mean a system that will not change quickly. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #20 20131115 19:44:15
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They also do not have any numbers. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #21 20131115 20:35:32
Re: Why we need numbers ?And do not produce goods or provide services, so they have nothing to use money for. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #22 20131115 20:51:50
Re: Why we need numbers ?Wouldn’t it great if humans also didn’t have to use money? Then we wouldn’t have to work and get stressed out. Let’s get rid of money and live like happy and carefree animals! Like the way the 18thcentury philosopher JeanJacques Rousseau said we all should live. 134 books currently added on Goodreads #23 20131115 21:14:47
Re: Why we need numbers ?Hm, then, how would we use the things we have today, such as computers, phones, cars, etc. I'm not sure many people would be happy with unusability of those. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #24 20131115 23:02:41
Re: Why we need numbers ?That’s because modern people have been heavily conditioned into worshipping these commodities (computers, cellphones, etc) as lifeordeath necessities. All of us are born into a materialistic culture in which money plays a vital part – and with rear the ugly heads of greed, selfishness, egocentric ambitiousness, etc. Suppose we go back to the time of our ancestors before this materialistic culture of ours was developed. Suppose, instead of going down this materialistic pathway, we choose the nonmaterialistic lifestyle of animals. Then we would live like animals – and money and computers would never have been invented, simply because we would have no use for them in our simplistic, nonmaterialistic way of life. And because they hadn’t been invented, we would not crave them. You cannot have a craving for things that don’t exist! 134 books currently added on Goodreads #25 20131116 01:17:09
Re: Why we need numbers ?It is a little late now for humanity to correct itself. Perhaps it will be forced upon him. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. 