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#26 2013-10-26 02:42:27

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

That is a new one. But is is only barely beta. He is years behind Olly. That has been the case with linux since 2003.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#27 2013-10-26 02:45:48

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

If not private, what did you Reverse Engineer?

Is it possible to reverse engineer a full OS like Windows in Ollydebug?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#28 2013-10-26 02:48:53

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

Partially. You can step into dll's and windows drivers. Perhaps these latest Olly's can do even more.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#29 2013-10-26 02:54:01

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

Why did you?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#30 2013-10-26 02:54:42

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

Hmmm, we can discuss that some other time.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#31 2013-10-26 03:01:25

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

Hey!
Backtrack is a very popular penetration testing distro. You should have some faith

bt5-g2.png


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#32 2013-10-26 03:06:08

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

There are two types hackers and crackers.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#33 2013-10-26 03:16:31

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

So? Why does that mean you cannot RE with Backtrack?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#34 2013-10-26 03:22:53

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

That I do not know. Olly is like one of the M's, it takes a long time to learn well. It was my favorite tool.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#35 2013-10-26 03:29:04

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

But still explain post 32


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#36 2013-10-26 03:32:21

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

You know what a hacker is. A cracker is a guy who reverse engineers software to make it do what he wants.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#37 2013-10-26 04:58:09

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No. I knew it in another way:

Hacker - One who breaks in to access data, reverse engineers, etc to play pranks and to test his skills with no bad intentions

Cracker - One who does the same but out of bad intentions from the heart like greed, rage


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#38 2013-10-26 05:00:27

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

Hmmm, the definition seems to have changed. Mine is the one I am using.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#39 2013-10-26 05:36:46

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

You know what a hacker is.

That is not a complete definition.

The next person will give the proper definition


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#40 2013-10-26 05:39:57

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

In the computer security context, a hacker is someone who seeks and exploits weaknesses in a computer system or computer network. Hackers may be motivated by a multitude of reasons, such as profit, protest, or challenge


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#41 2013-10-26 06:11:29

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

and cracker?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#42 2013-10-26 06:12:51

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

A cracker is a guy who reverse engineers software to make it do what he wants. Sometimes called a software pirate.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#43 2013-10-26 06:35:02

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

What about good guys who do both for fun and the damage is limited?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#44 2013-10-26 06:40:22

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

Back in the old days they were two very different things. Today, both have very bad reputations.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#45 2013-10-26 06:47:03

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

Which two?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#46 2013-10-26 06:48:46

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

Hacker and cracker were very different.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#47 2013-10-26 20:24:37

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

What are desktop.ini files on Windows?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#48 2013-10-26 22:10:14

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

Windows uses them to set attributes of the folder they are in.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#49 2013-11-13 14:28:51

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

Can they be harmful? or manipulated to be harmful?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#50 2013-11-13 14:38:36

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Re: Keep Calm and Love the Penguin

Everything they do is potentially poisonous.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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