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**mikau****Member**- Registered: 2005-08-22
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**Use y as the variable of integration to find the area between the graph of y = 1/x and the y axis from y = 1 to y = infinity**

Ok. y = 1/x so x = 1/y. The length of each "rectangle" should be x and the width should be dy.

So it should be the limit of ∫1/y dy from y = 1 to y = b as b approaches infinity, = lim (ln b - ln 1 ) as b approaches infinity, = ∞

**Rewrite the integral found in the preceding problem using x as the variable of integration.**

Ok first I tried using the change of variable system, then rewriting from scratch. Both produced the same answer. Rewriting from scratch:

The area should be ∫ x dy from y = 1 to y = infinity. dy = -1/x^2 dx so we can replace this with:

∫ -1/x dx from y = 1 to y = infintiy

Lets reverse the evaluation limits to make it positive:

∫ 1/x dx from y = infinity to y = 1

Ok. From y = infinity to y = 1. y = 1/x so x = 1/y when y = infinity, x aproaches zero to the right.

When y = 1, x = 1 so we should be able to rewrite this as:

**limit of ∫ 1/x dx from x = b to x = 1 as b approaches zero from the right. ** (This should be the answer to the problem.)

= limit of [ ln 1 - ln b ] as b approaches zero from the right.

= 0 - (-∞) = ∞

In both cases, we ended up evaluating ln ∞ + ln 1. Well technically we ended up with - ln 1 in the first, but thats the same as ln 1/1 = ln 1 = 0. So it ended up being the same thing.

The bizzare answer my book gave is as follows:

The limit of ∫ (1/x - 1) dx from x = 0 to x = 1 as b approaches zero from the right.

Whhhaaaat??? As b approaches zero from the right? I don't see a b in that expression at all! And where did that -1 come from?

Either its a misprint or I am doing something COMPLETELY wrong.

*Last edited by mikau (2006-02-24 07:56:51)*

A logarithm is just a misspelled algorithm.

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**espeon****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-02-05
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Sorry can't help you.I don't think they'll teach us this in primary school.Sorry

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**irspow****Member**- Registered: 2005-11-24
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As y varies from 1 to ∞ x varies from 1 to 0. But we never integrate in the negative direction, so your translated function now one of f(x) would need to be integrated from 0 to 1.

Okay, I too have no idea how they came up with that function, so uh er, I guess that I can't help you either. Sorry.

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**mikau****Member**- Registered: 2005-08-22
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I'm at least glad to see usually when I get stuck on a problem, no one else can solve it either. lol...

A logarithm is just a misspelled algorithm.

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