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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Great. And I learned another M instruction. Thanks!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, you have been introduced to Mr. Frobenius.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I heard of the numbers before, but I could not recall them, let alone know that M has such an instruction.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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M is like having a 1000 mathematicians as your personal pals. They will instruct you, just reading the help is an education!

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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It truly is.

Got any new problems (preferably mathematical)?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, get a closed form for the number of moves of Catch(n).

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I will, but tomorrow.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hmmm, it will fight back.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, as long as they do not fight back too hard.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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**New Problem:**

**A standard deck has its cards turned over one by one. Where is the most likely spots for the 2 red jacks?**

**A says) All positions have the same chance by super - duper symmetry.**

**B says) Not exactly A. The best positions are...**

**C says) Quiet B, I have the answer. The best position for the two red jacks is the 24th and 25 card.**

**D says) What is position?**

**E says) I got it!**

**A says) We must have the same answer!**

**What do you get?**

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Was the deck shuffled?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

That is all I have. If it was not shuffled and was right out of the box it would be easy to determine the position of them.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Ah, yes!

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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And what is the title of the book you mentioned?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Thanks for that.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Really cool problems and lots of formulas.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Yes, the contents look interesting..

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