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#1 2013-08-18 11:29:15

Al-Allo
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Geometry questions

Give examples of geometric solids bounded by one, two ,three , four planes (or parts of planes)

I only need help with the 1 plane one.

I'm not sure of it but the only one I can come with is a sphere. I know that it's surface isn't flat( the question doesn't mention that it needs to be flat) , or I'm not even sure that it's composed of a plane since it can't be decomposed.
SO my real question would be : Can we consider the sphere composed of only 1 plane or not ? Even if we can't decompose it ?
Any suggestions ?


I don't want the answer to the question, just hints-suggestions. Thank you

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#2 2013-08-18 18:57:55

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Re: Geometry questions

I'm not sure what the question means exactly.  What did you get for the others?

Bob


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#3 2013-08-19 03:10:56

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Re: Geometry questions

Two: cone

three: Cylinder


Four: Pyramid with triangular base

I thought also for the first one half a sphere, if we only count it's base but not its lateral surface.. (Because im not sure if the lateral face of a sphere is a plane or not...)

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#4 2013-08-19 03:19:24

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Re: Geometry questions

Hi

Thanks for that.  I can understand why the triangular based pyramid is four.  Each face is a plane.

I don't understand the other two.

Why is a cylinder 3?  The ends are planes (that's two ) but the curved surface isn't even flat so it isn't a plane. 

Is this because you have used the word 'plane' where you meant 'surface'?

http://www.mathsisfun.com/definitions/plane.html

http://www.mathsisfun.com/definitions/surface.html

Bob


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#5 2013-08-19 03:22:36

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Re: Geometry questions

Well yes that's it. If we decompose it, we get 3 surfaces.

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#6 2013-08-19 03:26:57

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Re: Geometry questions

I've just edited my post by adding two links.

One of then will give you the hint you require.

Bob


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#7 2013-08-19 03:30:17

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Re: Geometry questions

ok, so i've got half a cylinder. which is composed of two half a circle and one rectangle.

half a cone which is composed of one triangle and half a circle

and half a sphere with only one circle

is this it ??

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#8 2013-08-19 03:51:46

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Re: Geometry questions

I'm still not sure.  What language was the question written in?

Bob


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#9 2013-08-19 03:55:40

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Re: Geometry questions

Well, it's originaly a russian book, but it's in english. (If I understood correctly your question?)

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#10 2013-08-19 04:03:26

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Re: Geometry questions

And the word used is definitely 'plane'?

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#11 2013-08-19 04:06:37

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Re: Geometry questions

Yes, I copied the question word for word

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#12 2013-08-19 04:23:12

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Re: Geometry questions

OK.  Then I will assume that the original Russian also meant plane ie. flat surface.

In which case triangular pyramid is good for four planes.

The curves surfaces are not planes so you cannot count them.

But the question does not say that the planes must be the only bounds; only that it must be bounded by a plane or planes.

The hemi-sphere seems a good answer for one plane; the other boundary is not a plane but we are not asked about that.

Cylinder seems good for two planes (the ends; the curved part we ignore as it isn't a plane.)

So we just need a 3 plane example.

Imagine a sphere, centred on the origin. (3D coordinates so x, y and z) Now cut away everything that has a negative coordinate so you are left with one eighth of a sphere bounded by the x-y, x-z and y-z planes.  That is the three planes we are seeking.

Below: best image I could find.  No idea what it's called.

Hope that helps.

Bob

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#13 2013-08-19 04:30:57

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Re: Geometry questions

But for the semi-cylinder, you didn't count the rectangle ????

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#14 2013-08-19 04:32:14

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Re: Geometry questions

You're right!  I'd forgotten that one.  Ok.  You have them all.  smile

Bob


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#15 2013-08-19 04:33:25

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Re: Geometry questions

ok Thank you for your help ! It was great !

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