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**mathstudent2000****Member**- Registered: 2013-07-26
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In class we studied the identity \displaystyle\binom{r}{r}+\binom{r+1}{r} +\binom{r+2}{r} + \cdots +\binom{n}{r} = \binom{n+1}{r+1} We also took a glimpse at \displaystyle\binom{r}{0}+\binom{r+1}{1} +\binom{r+2}{2} + \cdots +\binom{n}{n-r} = \binom{n+1}{n-r}. We will now take a closer look at this second identity.

(a) Confirm that the second identity works for n=5, r=2 and for n=7, r=3.

(b) What is the relationship between the first and second identities?

(c) Prove the second identity above algebraically without using what you learned in Part b. (In other words, prove it without the help of the hockey stick identity we studied in class).

(d) Prove the second identity above with a block-walking argument.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Sorry, I can not read that?!

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**mathstudent2000****Member**- Registered: 2013-07-26
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srry, i used latex, i will change it to regular english

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In class we studied the identity combination{r}{r}+combination{r+1}{r} +combination{r+2}{r} + ... +combination{n}{r} = combination{n+1}{r+1} We also took a glimpse at combination{r}{0}+combination{r+1}{1} +combination{r+2}{2} +... +combination{n}{n-r} = combination{n+1}{n-r}. We will now take a closer look at this second identity.

(a) Confirm that the second identity works for n=5, r=2 and for n=7, r=3.

(b) What is the relationship between the first and second identities?

(c) Prove the second identity above algebraically without using what you learned in Part b. (In other words, prove it without the help of the hockey stick identity we studied in class).

(d) Prove the second identity above with a block-walking argument.

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**mathstudent2000****Member**- Registered: 2013-07-26
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combination{x}{y} means x combination y

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I know that.

combination{r}{r}+combination{r+1}{r} +combination{r+2}{r} + ... +combination{n}{r} = combination{n+1}{r+1} We also took a glimpse at combination{r}{0}+combination{r+1}{1} +combination{r+2}{2} +... +combination{n}{n-r} = combination{n+1}{n-r}.

It is totally unreadable on my browser

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**mathstudent2000****Member**- Registered: 2013-07-26
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i will change it

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**mathstudent2000****Member**- Registered: 2013-07-26
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In class we studied the identity (r) combination (r) + (r+1) combination (r) +(r+2) combination (r) + ... + (n) combination (r) = (n+1) combination r+1 We also took a glimpse at (r) combination (0) + (r+1) combination (1) +(r+2) combination (2) +... +(n) combination (n-r) = (n+1) combination (n-r). We will now take a closer look at this second identity.

(a) Confirm that the second identity works for n=5, r=2 and for n=7, r=3.

(b) What is the relationship between the first and second identities?

(c) Prove the second identity above algebraically without using what you learned in Part b. (In other words, prove it without the help of the hockey stick identity we studied in class).

(d) Prove the second identity above with a block-walking argument.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

What was your answer for a)?

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**mathstudent2000****Member**- Registered: 2013-07-26
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i didn't know how to do it

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Did you substitute the values in?

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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**mathstudent2000****Member**- Registered: 2013-07-26
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i think i got it

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Very good!

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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**mathstudent2000****Member**- Registered: 2013-07-26
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never mind i didn't get it

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**mathstudent2000****Member**- Registered: 2013-07-26
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how do you substitute it

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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We also took a glimpse at (r) combination (0) + (r+1) combination (1) +(r+2) combination (2) +... +(n) combination (n-r) = (n+1) combination (n-r).

You want to prove this identity for n=5, r=2 and for n=7, r=3?

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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**mathstudent2000****Member**- Registered: 2013-07-26
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yes please, but i don't know how to

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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As near as I can understand it, for n=5, r=2.

We are done.

For n=7, r=3.

We are done.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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