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Yes. Would you change the title of this thread to 'An Integral and the Computer' or something more interesting

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I will change it to exactly that.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hm, what about Romberg?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Romberg uses the trapezoidal rule and then generates an array of values. Hopefully with each column being more accurate because each column is a higher and higher Newton Cotes.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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So, how is each value generated, exactly?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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It uses something called Richardson's Extrapolation to do that. I generally do not use it for anything but sequence acceleration and I am not sure how it does that either.

As I said the first column is as trapezoidal rule the successive columns are computed using this formula:

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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The original integral to a 100 places (with trap):

Requires n=215004709762716014868701639070092447035983684173824 according to the error estimate.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I would not recommend the trap rule for that many digits of precision.

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With what did you compute that?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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He used the big boy on the block, M!

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I do not recommend it either. Just look at how large n it took!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You do not believe that M actually did anything that many times?!

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Of course not! Nothing can do something like that that many times. What I do not know is what it did.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Used acceleration techniques. What command did you use?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Sum.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Okay, that uses lots of acceleration making that command fast.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Yes, thought it was something like that, but that number is still very large. Maybe it has to do with the fact that it all of them are very very small.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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What is very small?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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(Cos[x])^100.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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If you used Sum he probably was able to do the definite summation and get a closed form.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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It seems it really does have a closed form for the sum!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That would account for the speed and accuracy.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I'm now trying to implement the Simpson's rule in M.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Should not be difficult. Nice clean formula for math style.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Yes, it is a pretty one. Unlike Romberg...

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