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#1 2013-06-03 01:06:25

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Possible Lego People

Miles has 4 Lego people in his Lego town. A Lego person consists of exactly 1 set of legs, a torso, and a head. All of these body parts are distinct. Miles' son comes in and separates the Lego people into their individual pieces. How many different sets of 4 Lego people can be created from the pieces?

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You should not form a Lego person from a head, another head and another head.

The order in which the Lego people are formed doesn't matter.



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#2 2013-06-03 02:07:38

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I am getting (4!)^2.

Your solution because you allow for any of tthe parts to be used twice.


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#3 2013-06-03 11:27:28

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When did I allow that?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#4 2013-06-03 15:03:15

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Hi Agnishom;

anonimnystefy's answer is correct. But the question could be tricky. Do you need an explanation?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#5 2013-06-04 00:13:17

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Yes


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#6 2013-06-04 20:18:50

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Choose the first head and there are now 4 legs and 4 torsos for 4 x 4 = 16

Choose the second head. 3 x 3 = 9

Choose the third head 2 x 2 =4

16 x 9 x 4 = 576


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#7 2013-06-04 21:51:04

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I still do not get this.
Why does the number of legs and torsoes decreasing?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#8 2013-06-05 02:07:46

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Because you cannot use a torso or a pair of legs if you have already used them.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#9 2013-06-05 02:54:46

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Hi Agnishom;

The decreasing always happens when you sample without replacement.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#10 2013-06-05 14:18:44

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anonimnystefy wrote:

Because you cannot use a torso or a pair of legs if you have already used them.

What! Why??

Where does the question imply that?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#11 2013-06-05 15:41:25

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anonimnystefy wrote:

Because you cannot use a torso or a pair of legs if you have already used them.

I can't understand it..


Jake is Alice's father, Jake is the ________ of Alice's father?
Why is T called island letter?
think, think, think and don't get up with a solution...

#12 2013-06-05 19:09:43

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Where does the question imply that?

Because as you are assembling each particular set of them you are using up the pieces.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#13 2013-06-06 03:51:11

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Oh yeah. Clever.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#14 2013-06-06 03:51:56

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Just wondering, where'd you get this problem from?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#15 2013-06-06 03:56:19

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Brilliant.org


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#16 2013-06-06 04:14:38

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Hm, which level of Geometry and Combinatorics are you?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#17 2013-06-06 05:28:38

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Are you okay with the answer?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#18 2013-06-06 11:33:23

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No, it will take time to visualise that.

I am in Level 3. What about you?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#19 2013-06-06 11:34:40

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I have not been back there since the last time you mentioned it to me.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#20 2013-06-06 11:40:06

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But you get a level the first time you join it.
I'll bet you're at 5


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#21 2013-06-06 11:44:07

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I'll bet I am not. You have 7000 points there if I remember.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#22 2013-06-06 15:37:56

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I don't understand why you are not


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#23 2013-06-06 19:13:23

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The most powerful restriction I know, time! I can not be here and there at the same time. Since Jane unearthed my clones I have had to put them back into cold storage.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#24 2013-06-06 21:34:01

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They Give You A Level When You First Log Into It. By Default Your Level Should Start As Very High


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Who are you to judge everything?' -Alokananda

#25 2013-06-06 21:35:28

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I remember I had 375 or so points. I do not remember my level.

I am on level 5 and have 610 points so far.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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