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**mathaholic****Member**- From: Juliania
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Muybien!

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Hi Bobby.

Yes, I saw it was a joke just before my previous post, when I worked out what was going on (I think).

Thanks for those codes. I knew the second one from our previous alphametic discussions, but forgot about it 'coz it's been a while!

The first one gives a string of "False" results.

Edit: Just saw there's actually one "True" + 23 "False". Haven't tried to interpret that yet, but must go now.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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But one true!

{False,False,False,True,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False,False}

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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True! I saw that (see my edit to post #52, 16 seconds before yours).

But it doesn't say which option is true. Could you help me to print the solution from that code? I've tried but haven't found a way to do it.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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bobbym wrote:

Hi;

I hate to give this up! No one seems to know about the mightiest command in M.

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Which command is it? Tuples, maybe?

Hi phro

I solved it in with a stupid brute force solution.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Hi stefy,

I solved it in with a stupid brute force solution.

Well, that fits in nicely with the theme of my puzzle. I'm the *stupid brute* who *forced *himself to persevere for ages to find some not-too-easy-to-solve (by hand) alphametic for letters with values 1, 2, 3 and 4.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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A stupid brute?

Brute force is a time honored algorithm

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**mathaholic****Member**- From: Juliania
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Oh.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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bobbym wrote:

Brute force is a time honored algorithm

Yes, probably my 'go-to' algorithm...especially if I can't see the benefit of trying to find a more elegant alternative that would have given a solution in a fraction of the brute's time, but well after the brute has already been written and run, and all of the people have gone home.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Exact a mundo! CSBFC in a nutshell.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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The CSBFC principle, described in an unpublished article by a brilliant guy. I've only read good reports about it, but know no more about it than that.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Perhaps he will resurface again someday...

Did you look at the command? What did you think of it?

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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No, I haven't yet. I'd been meaning to, but I've been very busy with something else the last four hours or so. Tuckered out now and I don't feel like using matchsticks to prop my eyes open, so bed for me...and it's not even very long after midnight!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Okay, see you tomorrow. Thanks for the problem!

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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**mathaholic****Member**- From: Juliania
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Anymore solutions? I will give you five !

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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To phrontister's? There is only that one.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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**mathaholic****Member**- From: Juliania
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OH.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Here is a cryptic puzzle, and your task is to interpret its meaning, which will then reveal the method by which I arrive at the answer 1234.

To just 1 (not 2, 3 or 4) CLIX, add a sixty-six and MIX, for a result as per the recipe.

Warning: To obtain the desired result, * do not* stir the Italian ingredients (the other can be stirred as much as you like...if done properly).

*EDIT: Removed the abstruse content from the original, though it added some jocularity (was a bit too sideways, I think).*

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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phrontister wrote:

To just 1 (not 2, 3 or 4) CLIX, add a sixty-six and MIX, for a result as per the recipe.

Warning: To obtain the desired result,

stir the Italian ingredients (the other can be stirred as much as you like...if done properly).do not

EDIT: Removed the abstruse content from the original, though it added some jocularity (was a bit too sideways, I think).

I liked the bond reference.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Ok. After that overwhelming avalanche of votes from ¼ that is in favour of the original...here it is again (ie, the original wording of the changed cryptic puzzle in post #68):

To just 1 (not 2, 3 or 4) CLIX, add a sixty-six and MIX (not to be shaken, nor stirred ); and, "e voilà!"...a 'bond' of "1234" appears!

Maybe something can be learnt from this reappearance when used in conjunction with its short-lived replacement; but maybe not.

PS: On an aside note, note the suffix-rhyme in the puzzle.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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julianthemath wrote:

No doubt the light will turn on for someone soon, and they'll spill the beans and put my cryppy to rest.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I hope you don't mind if I turn it into a limerick.

If you really want to know more

'bout 1234

To just one CLIX

and sixty-six, MIX

and you've got what you're looking for.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Nice one, stefy!

I adapted it a little, and wrote a musical score for it.

My adaptation:

If you wanna score

the 1234,

then to just one CLIX

add sixty-six

and MIX (tap tap tap tap tap-tap):

explore (tap tap tap tap tap-tap),

and you'll find what you're lookin' for (tap tap tap tap tap-tap).

It's gonna be a real foot-stompin', finger-tappin', knee-slappin' hit! I can see it now!

Btw, have you solved the puzzle? If you have, please hide your answer. Ta.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Which puzzle?

And what is TA? Your initials?

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