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How do I devise an algorithm to solve a sliding puzzle?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Do you mean the 15 puzzle?

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The 15 puzzle is unsolvable.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Some positions are not possible but others are.

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Ok, so how to do it?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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There is some math that tells you whether it is solveable or not but I have forgotten it.

Programming it, looks tough.

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Mathematica?

I will have a name change soon. By the way, welcome to the Philippines, Pope Francis!

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But programming it is what I am thinking.

After all, programs are threre which solve them

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I will try one and see what comes up.

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Did you?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I have not even scratched the surface because I am still wrestling with a representation of the puzzle itself. It is unlikely that I will get far even when I solve that small problem because I do not understand how the program should pick from its many choices.

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Are you on Win 7?

The algorithm isn't simple, it involves a lot of graph theory...

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Heck no!

That is the problem right there. I am not very good with graph theory. As a matter of fact, I stink.

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http://www.brian-borowski.com/Software/Puzzle/

Are they calling each state a node?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Probably, that would make sense.

Here is the math behind every solution.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/15Puzzle.html

Also, there are tons of these programs to download. I need some sleep, see you.

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Okay Sweet Dreams!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Thanks and same to you.

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