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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That expression gets the second square before the first. We could iterate again and get the third, fourth or fifth.

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I just coded it and it worked!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi Agnishom;

Which did you code?

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This: http://www.alpertron.com.ar/4SQUARES.HTM

Wait, something's wrong: it can't decompose numbers like 130, 520, 2080, 8320, 33280, 133120 and I can't understand why.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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All those numbers are divisible by 130. Can it do 16?

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Yes.

(All numbers between them and less than them can be done)

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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There are

for 130. Maybe his algorithm is not correct.

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What they simply say:

*Last edited by Agnishom (2013-04-21 00:54:03)*

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Did you try his applet at the bottom and see if it works on 130?

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Let me do that now.

BTW Can you see this:

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

No, I can not.

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Oh! Then #84 won't make sense to you.

Yes, it can decompose 130 and that is sad

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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How did you express 130 in the form of 4^r * s?

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Repeated division by 4.

The problem is here I guess:

Subtract a square and check whether the result has the form 2^m (4k+1) where m is a non-negative integer.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

There is no form 4^r *s = 130

Also, 130 is representable as the sum of 2 squares.

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(4^0)*(130) = 130

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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What did you now get for this step?

2^m (4k+1)

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That is the problem, I can't do it. 4k + 1 isn't being a prime

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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When you ran his applet, what was his answer for 130?

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7**2 + 9**2

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Maybe I am missing something but how do you know what square to subtract?

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I am starting from 0, then 1 then 4 then 9 then 16 and so on..

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Let me look at it for awhile.

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look for what?

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See this one: http://agnishom.tumblr.com/post/48531450618/splitting-an-integer-into-four-squares

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