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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Yes that is fine I will do that. Bye for now.

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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Hi steveb mandy here i did bob bundy maths test. Hope that they are right i sent answer by email? do you have a test that i could do to see how i am getting on please? or could you give me some quesion on time my next topic ok? leave message on here or send me an email i will look back now and then to see if you have left me anything to do ok?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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On April the 12th I sent you this question by email:

£ 8.10 - hourly rate

40 hours - normal full time hours

Monday to Friday overtime: time and a third

Saturday overtime: time and a half

Sunday overtime: time and two thirds

The employee does the 40 basic hours plus:

3 hours extra on a Friday

and 5 hours on Saturday,

and 4 hours on Sunday

Calculate the basic pay,

overtime pay on Friday,

the overtime pay for Saturday,

and the overtime pay for Sunday

Add them together to get the total pay for the week.

Did you attempt it ? If so what did you get as an answer ? If not do you want to try it now ?

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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hi steveb could we try it now please?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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First of all what is the basic pay for the week ?

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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the basic pay for the week is £324.00 am i right?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Yes that is correct. Now what about the overtime for Friday? Can you work out what the rate will be for Friday ?

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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3hours extra on a fri at time and a third is £27.00 am i right?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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No that is not right.

Okay so we have £8.10 as the basic rate. We want to first work out a third of that. (Did you think that that was £0.90 ?)

I think you might have divided by 9 by mistake.

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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should it of been £32.4 then am i right?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Yes that is correct. Now how about the Saturday overtime. The rate is time and a half (and the basic rate is £8.10).

Can you do this bit ?

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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5 hours on sat is it £60.75 am i right?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Yes that is correct. Now let's look at the Sunday rate. We want to add two thirds to the basic rate with this one.

Are you okay with doing that ?

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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4 hours on sun is it £54.00 am i right?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Correct. Now all you have to do is add up all the overtime pay and the basic pay together to get a total for the week.

Can you do that ?

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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then total then is it £471.15 am i right?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Yes very good. Correct. I agree with your answer.

Now the test that Bob gave you probably will get marked later. I don't have it at the moment so I don't know how you got on.

Were there any topics in that that you felt you were struggling with ?

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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could you do a test on what i hve done so far and could i have some quesion on time as it is my next topic to do ok?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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I certainly can. Of the top of my head a few questions might be:

(1) What is 40% written as a fraction (simplify it to its lowest terms) ?

(2) What is the fraction 7/8 written as a decimal ? What is that as a percentage ?

(3) If you have a 3 : 4 ratio of breakfast cereal : chocolate in a recipe how much of these two ingredients would you need

to make up 140 grams of the mixture ?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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On the topic of "time" I could do with more information about the sort of thing you want to learn about.

I have got a few ideas of my own like:

(1) If you have a time period of 4 hours and you need to divide it into 10 equal time slots how long should each one be ?

(2) What is the time of 7pm written in a 24 hour clock form ?

(3) How many seconds are there in a day ? (If the arithmetic is difficult with this question you may like to use a calculator.)

(EDIT: Also for question 3 you might like to think of a good way of making the arithmetic easier. I have solved it myself using

pen and paper without a calculator (but just checking using a calculator) most of it can be done with times tables and using

rules of multplication/division by 10, 100, 1000 etc. there is one point where long multiplication may be a good idea.)

*Last edited by SteveB (2013-04-16 05:56:44)*

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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ok i will do them and get them back to you later today or torrow ok?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Okay fair enough. Do let me know about the sub topics to do with time that you are interested in learning about.

EDIT:

I have had a few more thoughts about basic maths using time:

(1) The time gap between two times. For example the time gap in hours and minutes between 10:30am and 4:50 pm

(Without using a calculator, but pen and paper allowed, using a good method that avoids confusion.)

(2) Averages of timings given in minutes and seconds. For example: 1 min 40 secs, 1 min 20 secs and 2 mins 30 secs

(Giving the answer in minutes and seconds, avoiding any errors with confusion between 100 seconds and 1 minute (60 seconds))

(3) Interpretation of timetables. (This could be difficult online and setting up a question will require a fair bit of work I suspect

especially if a complicated example similar to a real timetable is needed.)

(4) Calculations involving speed, distance and time perhaps ? (If a walk is on average 5 kmph for 2 hours how long is the walk ?)

(5) Other physics matters to do with time. However these may go beyond the scope of your course.

*Last edited by SteveB (2013-04-19 06:39:45)*

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Mandy: Have you done any or all of those questions ?

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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Hi steveb mandy here. My answers to the question are

Q1 = 2/3 +1/4 = 3/7

Q2 = 1/5 + 1/3 = 2/8

Q3 = have not done top heavy fraction or a whole number followed by a fraction

Have done this far am I right or not?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Those are not right.

Let us go through Q1 together.

The denominators must be equal before adding. Since one is in thirds and the other in quarters we cannot just add them like that.

What would be a good denominator?

*Last edited by SteveB (2013-04-22 01:13:35)*

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