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Given a positive integer, suggest an algorithm to express it as the sum of four squares

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Please give some constraints on the numbers you can use.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I am guessing integers?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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He needs to define whether 0 is included or not.

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Any thing .... Just liike bobbym does in Add 99 and post forever

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Here's a one-liner in Mathematica:

`PowersRepresentations[n,4,2]`

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I am aware of that but that does not teach me the algorithm

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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See this: http://www.alpertron.com.ar/4SQUARES.HTM

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Hm, by the way, do you have Mathematica?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I do.

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Why is it better than maxima or sage?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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That is more of a question for bobbym. I am just starting to try it out. I have a lot to learn. He has more experience with it and knows a lot things you can do in it.

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Which do you preffer, still?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I do not know much about either to form an opinion.

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I thought you were an expert of Maxima

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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How'd you get that idea?

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Wait, I will search the forum for the evidence.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Okay. But, I do not think you can prove something that is not true...

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Well, I think I had misinterpreted someone's idea which made me believe this

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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It is possible.

Which idea is that?

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bobbym wrote:

Sage is a powerful alternative and so is Maxima which comes with geogebra. That is what anonimnystefy used.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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It is what I used. Now I do not use it as much, because I an trying to learn working in M.

I think that gAr uses Sage, or at least used, so, if you are considering Sage, I think he might know stuff about it.

As for Maxima, I would be glad to help with anything, as long as I know it myself.

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Another M?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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There is only one M.

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Maxima, Mathematica

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