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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Correct a Mundo! One of the cornerstones of experimental mathematics.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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It seems the the denominator is always a power of the number of bins, as expected.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Now you only have to work on the numerators. And they are integers.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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But, some of the numerator might have to be multiplied by a factor.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Why do you say that?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Because it might be lost when the denominator and the numerator are canceled.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Very good, you are correct.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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But, it is hard to figure out what the factor is for each of those fractions... What do we do now?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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If you know that the denominators were powers of 3, you should be able to reconstruct the numerators.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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But, the trouble is that for 3 bins and 5 balls needed, the denominator is greater than 3^4...

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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It seems that cancellation is not the problem. 9^3, 9^7 ... is gone!

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I think the denominators have to form the series 3^(3*(k-1)).

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Not every sequence has a general term that is expressible in terms of elementary functions.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I am sure the denominators have to be of the form 3^(3*(k-1)).

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That produces this table:

{1,27,729,19683,531441,...}

the denominators look like this:

You can see what was cancelled from each one and put it back.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Yes. So, the factors we need to multiply the numerator by are {1,3,9,3,9}.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You could try that. Try to read as much of the help as you can for the next couple of days.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Okay, see you later!

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Had to pay some bills and the rent.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Okay. OEIS has nothing on our numerator sequence...

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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How about going across instead of down?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I haven't tried. I will tomorrow, because I am watching Doctor Who now.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Okay that is fine, I am going to get some sleep.

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Okay, see you later!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Okay. OEIS has nothing on our numerator sequence...

Even after you adjusted the numerators for the missing 3's?

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