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You are not logged in. #251 20130402 01:38:54
Re: ExpectationOkay, what now? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #252 20130402 01:47:47
Re: ExpectationFindSequenceFunction[Flatten[ans],n] In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #253 20130402 01:49:25
Re: ExpectationIt is still showing the same thing! The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #254 20130402 01:51:42
Re: ExpectationYes, now go FullSimplify[%] In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #255 20130402 01:55:54
Re: ExpectationNevermind. I used FullSimplify[Expand[%]] and it worked. Let me try for 3 bins. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #256 20130402 02:00:43
Re: ExpectationThe Table command has been set to return a column vector, the second column. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #257 20130402 02:04:21
Re: ExpectationWhat? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #258 20130402 02:06:32
Re: Expectationans=Table[Table[f[i,j],{i,2,2}],{j,1,15}] In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #259 20130402 02:12:38
Re: ExpectationI did. The FindSequenceFunction doesn't return a function. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #260 20130402 02:15:54
Re: ExpectationWhat does it spit out? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #261 20130402 02:17:25
Re: ExpectationThe limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #262 20130402 02:19:16
Re: ExpectationWhenever M spits out the command just like you entered it that means it did not succeed. You will probably need more terms. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #263 20130402 02:28:01
Re: ExpectationWhat surprises? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #264 20130402 02:29:19
Re: Expectationans=Table[Table[f[i,j],{i,2,2}],{j,1,15}]; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #265 20130402 02:32:11
Re: ExpectationLast edited by anonimnystefy (20130402 02:32:40) The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #266 20130402 02:32:45
Re: ExpectationAmazing yes? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #267 20130402 02:34:07
Re: ExpectationIt is. Does it work for 3,3? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #268 20130402 02:37:47
Re: ExpectationYour use of Table is not correct, change it to look like this: In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #269 20130402 02:40:53
Re: ExpectationEither way, it is not returning a GF... The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #270 20130402 02:42:49
Re: ExpectationSometimes it is unable to answer the question and we have to try other ways. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #271 20130402 03:06:03
Re: ExpectationLike what? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #272 20130402 03:07:51
Re: ExpectationAll the work I have done is basically to coax M to give a little bit more. You can pick any problem and see some of it. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #273 20130402 03:12:58
Re: ExpectationWhat would you do on this particular problem for 3,3? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #274 20130402 03:15:52
Re: ExpectationIt is unrealistic to expect M or anyone else to get a closed form for each of those columns. A closed form does not always exist. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #275 20130402 03:24:10
Re: ExpectationThat would be the OEIS? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment 