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#826 2013-03-26 02:32:07

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Right I think we should look at an example that does not terminate exactly. What is 1 divided by 3 ?

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#827 2013-03-26 02:36:18

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1 divided 3 = 3 am I right?

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#828 2013-03-26 02:37:17

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Your answer is not correct. See below.....

Right here goes:

        ------------
  3   |   1. 0 0 0

1 divided by 3 is zero remainder 1. The 1 becomes a ten in the next column....
10 divided by 3 is .....

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#829 2013-03-26 02:39:42

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So we have:
           0 .    3
        ----------------------
   3  |   1 .  [10]  [10]  0

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#830 2013-03-26 02:39:42

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10 divided 3= 9.1 am I right?

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#831 2013-03-26 02:40:57

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Yes 3 x 3 = 9 is the right times table so  10 divided by 3 gives us 3 with a remainder of one.

Do you see what is going to happen next ?

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#832 2013-03-26 02:42:42

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The next step is the same as this one am I right?

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#833 2013-03-26 02:43:35

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Well that remainder of one is going to give us 10 again. Which gets divided by 3 again.

So we get this happening:
          0 .   3     3      3      3 .....
        -------------------------------
   3  |  1 . [10] [10] [10] [10] ....

The decimal could in principle go on forever like this. We need a sensible way of writing this.

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#834 2013-03-26 02:46:28

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So is the answer 0.330 then am I right?

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#835 2013-03-26 02:48:07

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We could say that it is  0. 333 to 3 decimal places (rounded).
Some mathematicians will put a dot over a 3 to indicate that it is a recurring decimal. so 0.3  (with a dot over the 3)
(I can't display that very well at the moment I will need to find out later how Latex could be used to show that.)

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#836 2013-03-26 02:49:15

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So the fraction  (4 / 5) gave us 0.8 this could be converted into a percentage. How can we do this ?

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#837 2013-03-26 02:55:14

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( 4 / 5 ) = 0 . 8 = ( 0 . 8 x 100) as a percentage =  80 %

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#838 2013-03-26 02:58:54

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Hi steveb mandy here. I am finding this hard to do?  Is there a website that show you how to do this?

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#839 2013-03-26 03:02:50

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Do you know how to access the Math Is Fun teaching part of the website?
You can go to the main page of this site and choose the first thing in of the bar at the top.
This is called "Math is Fun" the forum we are on is called "Math is Fun Forum".
I will have a look at it now and come back. If you are able to read this then I am back ....

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#840 2013-03-26 03:07:31

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I cannot give you a link as a post because I have to be a more established member to do that. However there are some useful
thinks on the Math Is Fun website.

Look at things like "how to convert fractions into decimals" and "how to convert decimals into fractions". Tell me what you think.

I will have a break and come back. However I will check the computer in ten minutes or so.

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#841 2013-03-26 03:17:00

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Hi steveb mandy here the Page you got me to. Look at is very good thanks for that?  Now what do you want me to do?

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#842 2013-03-26 03:19:32

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I could take you through another example of fractions being converted into a decimal and then a percentage.

Try  1 divided by 6 ? (Do you know how to start this one?)

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#843 2013-03-26 03:25:06

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Is it 6 divided 10 = 1 remainder 4 am I right?

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#844 2013-03-26 03:27:10

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OK
          0  . 
       -----------------------
  6  |   1  .  0  0  0  0  0

1 divided by 6 is 0  remainder 1.  The one becomes a ten in terms of the next column. So [10] goes where the first zero is.

          0  .    1      6   
       -----------------------
  6  |   1  .  [10]  [40] 0

Yes well done. 10 divided by 6 is one remainder 4. So we pass the 4 to the next zero as a [40].

What is 40 divided by 6 ?

Hint:  6 x 6 = 36

In other words  40  divided by 6  gives us  6  remainder 4. This becomes a [40] to start the next division (and so it repeats).

So we end up with this:

       0   .  1       6     6      6     6     6   (and so on forever...)
     ----------------------------------------
  6 | 1   . [10] [40] [40] [40] [40] [40]

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#845 2013-03-26 03:31:29

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Hi steveb mandy here is the answer 0.6666 then am I right?

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#846 2013-03-26 03:33:00

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That is not quite right I will edit the above post #844 to show you in a minute.

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#847 2013-03-26 03:35:23

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40 divided 6=6 remade 4 am I right?

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#848 2013-03-26 03:37:56

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That is correct. Look at the post #844 I have updated it to show the result.

It turns out that  1 / 6  =  0.166666.....

If we round this to 3 decimal places what should we give the answer as strictly speaking ?

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#849 2013-03-26 03:40:44

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So now what do you want me to do?

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#850 2013-03-26 03:42:08

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What is ( 1 / 6 ) rounded to 3 decimal places? (Be careful with that one)

What is this as a percentage ?

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