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#526 2013-03-13 03:40:27

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yes i understed all of that? so what is next?

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#527 2013-03-13 03:43:42

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So:
  2 . 6 +
  3 . 5
--------
  6 . 1
--------
  1

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#528 2013-03-13 03:44:50

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now what do you what me to do?

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#529 2013-03-13 03:44:56

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By the way the answer 6.1 does have a decimal point in it. (Bob left this out of his graphic)

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#530 2013-03-13 03:45:59

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OK here is what I suggest. How about you try an example like  5.7 + 3.6 and see how you get on with that.

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#531 2013-03-13 03:47:34

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so what should we do then?

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#532 2013-03-13 03:50:54

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OK here is the problem:
 
  5 .  7
  3 .  6
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What is the first step in solving this addition ?

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#533 2013-03-13 03:51:54

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so 5 . 7 +          is this right then?
     3 . 6
     ------
      9. 3
    -------
      1

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#534 2013-03-13 03:53:30

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Yes well done. Correct.
Right how about 3.57 + 6.69 ?

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#535 2013-03-13 03:58:17

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is it like 3 . 5 7
            6 . 6 9 +
            --------
          10 . 2 6
          ---------
            1   1

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#536 2013-03-13 03:58:58

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3 .  5  7 +
6 .  6  9
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-----------  ???

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#537 2013-03-13 03:59:58

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Sorry about that I realise that you have posted at about the same time that I posted that.
Yes well done you are correct again.

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#538 2013-03-13 04:01:01

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If you had three things to add together like 1.78 + 2.89 + 3.67 what would you do ?

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#539 2013-03-13 04:04:39

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i would first put them in a coloum?

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#540 2013-03-13 04:05:46

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Yes so you could put them all in one addition if you wanted. Like this
1 . 7 8
2 . 8 9
3 . 6 7
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---------

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#541 2013-03-13 04:07:25

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so now what?

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#542 2013-03-13 04:09:59

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I have noticed that you are quite good at these sums. Are you okay with 10.69 - 8.78 ?
Do you want to have a go at that one ?

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#543 2013-03-13 04:13:19

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i am not sure how to do this?

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#544 2013-03-13 04:23:19

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Right first let's write it out in full:
1 0 . 6 9
    8 . 7 8
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Now the first bit is easy. 9 - 8 = 1.
So in the answer the number one can be written straight away.
1 0 . 6 9
   8 . 7 8
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           1
-----------
Now in the next stage 6 - 7 = -1 this is a problem because we need a number between
0 and 9. I would then look to the left of the top number. In the next column there is a "0".
This is no good: We cannot decompose a zero.
So: Look at the far left at the top. We have a one so we can take 1 away from this to get
zero. Then we can drop off a "9" in the next column to the right. Then drop off a "10" to
the right of this (notice that we are just redistributing the number here - 10.0 = 9.0 + 1.0).
  9 . 16  9
  8 .  7   8
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             1
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Right I will give you a minute to look at that and ask any questions about that bit....

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#545 2013-03-13 04:29:50

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ok i have looked at that now what?

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#546 2013-03-13 04:36:22

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Right now the subtraction can be done quite easily:

9 . [16]  9 -
8 .  7     8
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1  .  9     1
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By the way I need to mention a few points before I teach you any bad habits.
There are limits to what I can display at this speed, online via a maths forum.
I have had to adapt the way I would usually write subtractions considerably.
If you have to attend an exam on subtraction (and other topics) then please follow
the conventions in your course about how to present your answer.
When I was taught how to do subtraction I would cross out the "1" and put a zero
The "0" to the right would be crossed out and replaced by a 9.
The 16 would be written with the "1" superscripted slightly to indicate that it had been
put in afterwards etc. Method marks are often more important than getting the correct answer.

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#547 2013-03-13 04:40:02

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ok what should i do now then?

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#548 2013-03-13 04:40:28

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OK. How about you try  20.37 - 18.66 ???
Try to indicate how you worked out the answer as well as you can.
There are limits to what you can do in plain text.
I will probably be able to see if you have used a sensible method.
Good luck.

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#549 2013-03-13 04:54:45

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first put in colcum 2 0 . 3 7
                           1 8 . 6 6-
                           ----------

then - 7-6=1    then 3-6 don'tgo so  take 1 from the 2 which makes that 1 put 1 next to the 0 now is 10 so take 1 from the 10 makes that 9 and put 1 next to the 3 wichis now 13 so 13-6 =7 so put 7 in senden colcum .9-8=1 so put in threed colcum and 1-1 = 0 put in forth colcum so it looks like this?

2 0 . 3 7
1 8. 6 6 -
----------
0 1 . 7 1
----------

is this right?

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#550 2013-03-13 05:01:09

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Very good.  Correct answer.
Can you see how to do 5 .69 - 3.78 ?
If you can do it then go ahead. I wll explain it if you need help.

Another one you might like to try is: 1.3 - 0.716 ?
Notice here that the decimals are not the same length so care is needed with positioning
and place value.

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