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[1 paradox][1 paradox] Why 0.999... is not equal to 1? Last edited by bobbym (2013-03-22 20:26:19) #2 2013-03-06 14:22:09
Re: [1 paradox]Hi;
The current probability theory is not wrong. The greatest empirical test of it was performed when Las Vegas was built pretty much by the efforts of Benjamin Siegel. Last edited by bobbym (2013-03-06 14:34:18) In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #3 2013-03-06 14:32:18
Re: [1 paradox]Why is it difficult for so many people to believe that 0.99999999999999....... = 1?? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'The whole person changes, why can't a habit?' -65 #4 2013-03-06 14:35:46
Re: [1 paradox]Beats me! I have heard every argument. None have ever been able to get through the first part of my post. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #5 2013-03-06 18:22:32
Re: [1 paradox]You still haven't disproven me. It seems that including 0.999... in reals is arbitrary. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón #6 2013-03-06 18:50:20
Re: [1 paradox]Why would 1 being an element of the reals bother you? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #7 2013-03-07 00:55:21
Re: [1 paradox]Not 1. 0.999... The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón #8 2013-03-07 01:58:15
Re: [1 paradox]Do you agree that 1 / 3 = .3333333333... ? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #9 2013-03-07 02:13:24
Re: [1 paradox]Yes. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón #10 2013-03-07 02:15:28
Re: [1 paradox]You like the idea of 2 / 3 = .666666666... In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #11 2013-03-07 02:23:51
Re: [1 paradox]That is okay, as well. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón #12 2013-03-07 02:28:12
Re: [1 paradox].3 + .6 = .9 In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #13 2013-03-07 02:33:09
Re: [1 paradox]I agree with the first three, but not with the fourth. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón #14 2013-03-07 02:35:40
Re: [1 paradox]It is just notation, ... means continuing on forever. This is obvious from the other ones. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #15 2013-03-07 02:38:36
Re: [1 paradox]It is not. Strange things can happen at infinity. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón #16 2013-03-07 02:39:17
Re: [1 paradox]Do you believe pi exists? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #17 2013-03-07 02:40:54
Re: [1 paradox]Yes. Otherwise, what would the ratio of the circumference and the diameter be? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón #18 2013-03-07 02:43:32
Re: [1 paradox]Do you have a problem with 3.14159...? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #19 2013-03-07 02:45:58
Re: [1 paradox]No. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón #20 2013-03-07 02:50:32
Re: [1 paradox]So to you what does .999999... mean? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #21 2013-03-07 02:51:37
Re: [1 paradox]Something that is barred from maths. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón #22 2013-03-07 02:52:48
Re: [1 paradox]It is not barred from math. How would you write In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #23 2013-03-07 02:54:08
Re: [1 paradox].33333333... + .66666666...=1. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón #24 2013-03-07 02:56:02
Re: [1 paradox]You do not see the possibility of In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #25 2013-03-07 03:02:11
Re: [1 paradox]What is that 0.999... on the RHS. Doesn't look like a number! The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón |