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My friend is claiming that he has found a proof to show that the "square root of -1" tends to 1.

He will probably show me the proof on Tuesday(if I get enough time to meet him).

Thoughts?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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That is definitely not true, and there will surely be an error in his "proof".

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I know this is funny that is why I am excited

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'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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I am just sad because that guy is going to whip up a proof in which the flaw is very, very well hidden, and that in the short time that you are unable to find it, he will feel superior.

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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Ya the time would be very short.

And I do not know enough about limits to tell whether he is correct.

BTW, Do we have another term for 0/0 other than 'undefined'?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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The common name for 0/0 is indeterminate. It means a different thing than undefined (which would be something like 1/0).

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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How does it make any difference?

Both just indicate 'nonsense'

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Yes, but, the first one could actually have a value.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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How?

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By the way, How do I fight absurd things like this:

∴ i^2 = -1

Again,

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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√a*√b=√ab only if a,b≥0.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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Proof?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

If a and b < 0 then it is easy to find a counterexample

*Last edited by bobbym (2013-02-15 22:41:54)*

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Counter example? Hmmm...

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi Agnishom;

You only need one counterexample to prove any assertion is not always true.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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bobbym wrote:

Hi;

If a and b < 0 then it is easy to find a counterexample

If somebody claims √-1*√-1=√(-1)*(-1) then he can also claim √-2*√-3=√6.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I was partially answering post #12, not the incorrect proof.

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Okay! What is the square root of i?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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What's with the green?

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Cool hah!

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Cool? Perhaps not

How did my latex in #10 get corrected?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I corrected it, I hope it is what you wanted to say.

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Nice thanks but i believe latex allowed us to put normal text inside it.

When are you all going to fix up the image upload? I've got something to show

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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MIF is working on that I have things too.

For your latex use \text{} to put ordinary text in latex.

Know this guy?

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