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#1 2013-01-26 09:51:49

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I've Reached Infinity! 2

Can we continue the thread here?
Anyway, 100! equals
9.332622e157.
What is e?
Speaking of e... I got E on GeoGebra, I zoomed out and it ended up with 6.5E9. I know thats greater than 1,000,000 units, because I passed that.


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#2 2013-01-26 09:56:39

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

e or E in this case stands for exponent. If you say

5.3434 e4 that means 5.3434 x 10^4

9.332622e157 that means 9.332622 x 10^157

6.5E9 that means 6.5 x 10^9


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#3 2013-01-26 10:13:28

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

So...
on GeoGebra, 6.5e9 is
20,711,912.8 units?


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#4 2013-01-26 10:20:31

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

6.5E9 = 6.5 x 10^9 = 6 500 000 000, I do not know how you are getting 20,711,912.8


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#5 2013-01-26 10:50:47

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

I figured that 100! is somewhere around...
654,747,700,701,377,386,126,856,657,861,679,570,529,800,895,801,424,573,182,559,133,258,946,484,061,065,580,876,771,978,236,269,380,302,819,031,314,362,546,968,961,704,181,923,607,153,180,171,236,969. That's QUINDECILLIONS!


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#6 2013-01-26 10:52:33

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

Hi;

Not quite.

100!= 93326215443944152681699238856266700490715968264381621468592963895217599993229915608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864000000000000000000000000


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#7 2013-01-26 11:03:17

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

Was I close?


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#8 2013-01-26 11:16:19

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Hi;

You were off by a factor of 142 million.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#9 2013-01-27 03:52:23

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

Speaking of infinity, I think 0^0= -0, which is infinity... for it is beyond definition....


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#10 2013-01-27 05:29:07

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GeoGebra said it was infinity too.
I scrolled over and i found a maximum of 10E19.


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#11 2013-01-27 05:31:42

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10E19 is...
10,000,000,000,000,000,000 units... that is like a.... QUINTILLION!


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#12 2013-01-27 05:43:49

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

You are missing one 0 in there...


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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#13 2013-01-27 08:02:20

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100,000,000,000,000,000,000?


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#14 2013-01-27 10:11:38

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That is correct!


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#15 2013-01-27 13:52:06

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

0^0 does not equal -0


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#16 2013-01-27 22:02:57

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It's a theory!


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#17 2013-01-27 22:57:30

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It is not a theory since you didn't show any arguments that it should be so...


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#18 2013-01-28 00:01:10

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Hi;

What is -0?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#19 2013-01-28 04:25:47

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It's undefined... smile
bwahahahahahahaha


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#20 2013-01-28 05:16:29

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No, it is not. -0 is equal to 0.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#21 2013-01-28 07:48:01

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0 is neither -0 or +0.


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#22 2013-01-28 09:21:10

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

If you mean to say that zero is neither positive nor negative, you're absolutely correct. But '-0' isn't the same as saying 'zero is negative'!

To see why 0 is the same as -0 and +0, imagine +1, +2, and so on, as a line starting from zero, like this:

http://i.imgur.com/i9ftrPv.png

http://i.imgur.com/7JgOhu8.png

A negative number is the same as a positive number, except you reverse the line. It's Stays the same length and still starts at zero, but it's flipped. For example, -2 looks like this:

http://i.imgur.com/jLgaM7M.png

You can imagine "flipping the line" with numbers closer and closer to zero (shorter and shorter lines). But what happens when your line gets so short that it doesn't really have length? (You could say "0 length").

By that stage, you don't really have a line anymore. You have a point which represents zero:

http://i.imgur.com/mM7ZLC1.png

Because it doesn't have any length "flipping" it doesn't change it, so +0 is the same as -0.

 

#23 2013-01-28 09:29:48

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Re: I've Reached Infinity! 2

Hi;

Please follow the other thread. There you will find good reasons for 0^0 = 1.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#24 2013-01-28 09:47:49

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Last edited by 21122012 (2013-01-28 09:53:53)


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