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## #151 2013-01-16 21:49:31

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Hi Agnishom,

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## #152 2013-01-17 00:38:35

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Thnk you gAr
One question, if I get such a question in an exam shall I have to write out all the possible combinations?

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## #153 2013-01-17 01:19:04

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Hi,

I think you can only mention about the remainders, number of such combinations and the pigeonhole principle.
But I'm a bit confused about the minimum of such numbers required to guarantee that no three numbers form a cube, because we can see that taking three consecutive numbers there is also a cube.

Anyway, a good question, is it from a question paper?

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #154 2013-01-17 13:15:39

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Yes. It is

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'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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## #155 2013-01-18 02:53:50

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Ok, thanks for the questions..

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #156 2013-01-18 13:27:28

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Hi Agnishom;

What is the title pf the book?

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
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## #157 2013-01-19 00:46:15

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Title pf means?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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## #158 2013-01-19 00:54:18

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I think he typed "pf" instead of "of"..

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #159 2013-01-19 01:00:04

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Well
I am not taking them from a book instead I am asking them from various olympiad questions

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'The whole person changes, why can't a habit?' -Alokananda

## #160 2013-01-19 03:37:40

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Hi gAr and Agnishom;

I have the flu and I am not as sharp as usual. I did mean of, sorry.

What I meant is Olympiad problems have numbers and state what Olympiad they are from. They also have answers to them that I can look up so you can study them. gAr's answer is the one I was working on also but he got there first.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #161 2013-01-19 14:00:08

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Hi bobbym;

Get Well soon

See this website.
and this as well

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'The whole person changes, why can't a habit?' -Alokananda

## #162 2013-01-19 15:09:30

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Hi Agnishom;

I have downloaded some more pdfs but so far nothing to help us.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #163 2013-01-19 15:12:51

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Hi bobbym,

How are you now?

Hi Agnishom,

Thanks for the links.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #164 2013-01-19 15:16:15

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Hi gAr;

Not much better, kind of tired.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #165 2013-01-19 15:23:43

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Hi,

Oh, take some rest..

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

## #166 2013-01-19 15:40:39

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Hi;

That is what I am going to do.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #167 2013-01-20 00:52:36

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#### bobbym wrote:

I have downloaded some more pdfs but so far nothing to help us.

Regarding what?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'The whole person changes, why can't a habit?' -Alokananda

## #168 2013-01-20 12:16:11

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Hi Agnishom;

Solutions for RMO's and that sort of thing.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #169 2013-02-10 13:29:45

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Question 11: How many digits does 5^44 have?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'The whole person changes, why can't a habit?' -Alokananda

## #170 2013-02-10 13:53:51

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10^x = 5^44

Take the common log of both sides

x = 44 log(5)

x = 30.7546

So we have

10^(.7546) * 10 ^30

5.48 * 10^30 moves the decimal point 30 places to the right. So it has 31 digits.

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #171 2013-02-10 19:29:00

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Actually, they said "without using a calculator"

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'The whole person changes, why can't a habit?' -Alokananda

## #172 2013-02-10 20:03:01

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Hi Agnishom

You can still use that.

The number of digits of a number is floor(log_10(that number))+1.

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## #173 2013-02-10 21:33:10

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Hi;

You can also get quite close using:

$\large \bold{ 5^{44}= \frac{10^{44}}{\left ( 2^{10} \right )^4 \cdot 2^4}}$

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #174 2013-02-11 00:41:03

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#### anonimnystefy wrote:

Hi Agnishom

You can still use that.

The number of digits of a number is floor(log_10(that number))+1.

Thats correct

Now, how do I do that to 5^44 without a calculator?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'The whole person changes, why can't a habit?' -Alokananda

## #175 2013-02-11 00:45:06

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Well you can approximate the logarithm...

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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