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## #1 2012-12-19 07:15:16

anonimnystefy
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### Lisp

To start a little Lisp discussion, here are two functions I wrote:

``````(defun fibonacci (n)
(labels ((fib (n f)
(if (or (zerop n) (eq n -1))
(car f)
(fib (- n 1)  (cons (+ (first f) (second f)) f ))
)))
(fib (- n 2) (1 1)))
)

(defun ints (n)
(labels ((f (n acc)
(if (zerop n)
acc
(f (- n 1) (cons n acc))
)))
(f n nil))
)``````

The first one is for calculating the nth Fibonacci number, and the second for generating a list of the first n positive integers.

You can test them by entering something like:

``(mapcar #'fibonacci (ints 20))``

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-12-19 08:40:07)

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## #2 2012-12-19 21:37:36

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### Re: Lisp

Anyone have an idea on what I could do next?

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## #3 2012-12-19 22:07:25

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### Re: Lisp

Can you do graphics with it?

If so, it is the ideal language for fractals.

Bob

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## #4 2012-12-19 22:12:41

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### Re: Lisp

Not yet. I could learn that, though...

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## #5 2012-12-19 22:37:35

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### Re: Lisp

It should do the recursion really well and to quite a depth.

If it works, post up the pictures.

Bob

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## #6 2012-12-19 22:42:43

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### Re: Lisp

How do I even start any work on graphics with Lisp?

Yes, it quite a capability for recursion.

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## #7 2012-12-19 23:02:52

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### Re: Lisp

Our friend Mr Google will give you plenty of hits.  Lisp programmers seem to be pretty generous with their code/ideas.

But you'll need to add what implementation you are using.

Bob

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## #8 2012-12-19 23:04:24

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### Re: Lisp

I tried Googling, but none of the things I tried worked...

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## #9 2012-12-20 00:28:22

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### Re: Lisp

What version of lisp?  What did you try?  (Just one at this stage)

Bob

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## #10 2012-12-20 07:20:17

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### Re: Lisp

I use SBCL for CLisp.

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## #11 2012-12-20 12:33:33

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### Re: Lisp

Hi Bob

I have a package called "vecto". I am searching for instructions on using it...

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## #12 2012-12-20 15:52:57

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### Re: Lisp

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## #13 2012-12-20 21:02:41

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### Re: Lisp

Hi Bob

That is the page I found! I will try what I can today...

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## #14 2012-12-21 11:23:52

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### Re: Lisp

Hi Bob

I have wrotten this code: http://pastebin.com/Je8PQMfX which should produce some kind of grayyscale Mandelbrot set, but it doesn't...

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## #15 2012-12-22 00:31:20

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### Re: Lisp

So what does it produce?

Have you worked up to this with simple stuff like draw a line, plot a pixel, shade an area etc.

Bob

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## #16 2012-12-22 00:37:22

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### Re: Lisp

Hi Bob

I edited my code a little bit:

``````(defun mandelbrot (size filename)
(let ((img (make-8-bit-gray-image size size)))
(declare (type 8-bit-gray-image img))
(loop for i from 1 to (1- size) do
(loop for j from 1 to (1- size) do ;these two loops go through all pixels of the image
(labels ((mb-set (x y nit) ;nit is the number of the iteration
(if (or (> (+ (* x x) (* y y)) 2) (> nit 1000)) ;this bit of code checks if the modulo of z is >2
(setf (pixel img i j) (round(/ 255.0 (1+ nit)))) ;if it is, this bit sets the current pixel to the appropriate shade of grey
(mb-set (+ (- (* x x) (* y y)) (/ (- j (round (/ size 2.0))) 50.0)) (+ (* 2 x y) (/ (- j (round (/ size 2.0))) 50.0)) (1+ nit)) ;if not, this bit sends new information into the next iteration
)
))
(mb-set 0.0 0.0 0)
)
)
)
(write-jpeg-file filename img)
)
)``````

but it produces the picture below...

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## #17 2012-12-22 01:31:27

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### Re: Lisp

Ok.  A common mistake which you can easily fix:

There are no comments / remarks / annotation to go with this code.

Bob

LATER EDIT

When you recompute x and y you need to store the new x temporarily whilst computing the new y, else you use the wrong x.

Recommend you don't call mb-set again until you have reset values in some extra lines of code, rather than packing all into a single line.

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## #18 2012-12-22 02:05:55

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### Re: Lisp

Hi Bob

The variable x is never reassigned once in the function...

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## #19 2012-12-22 02:07:55

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### Re: Lisp

Sorry.  Was just about to re-edit that load of rubbish.

(mb-set (+ (- (* x x) (* y y)) (/ (- j (round (/ size 2.0))) 50.0)) (+ (* 2 x y) (/ (- j (round (/ size 2.0))) 50.0)) (1+ nit))
)))

I see no i in that line.

Bob

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## #20 2012-12-22 02:16:29

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### Re: Lisp

Bob, you are brilliant!

The picture is given below.

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## #21 2012-12-22 03:21:08

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### Re: Lisp

That's a great fractal.  Well done!

So you could (i) improve the resolution or (ii) add colour or (iii) do a new fractal.

Bob

btw  Is now a good moment to admit I cannot program in Lisp ?  I was bluffing!

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## #22 2012-12-22 03:34:47

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### Re: Lisp

I am going with (i) first.

The other two will have to wait a bit...

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## #23 2013-05-17 16:21:56

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### Re: Lisp

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## #24 2013-11-15 00:24:04

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### Re: Lisp

Hi stefy;

What is a good way to learn Lisp?

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## #25 2013-11-15 06:12:09

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### Re: Lisp

Well, I never learned it much, so I cannot say for sure, but what I used for learning was the book On Lisp which covers the basics. Just Google "onlisp.pdf".

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